Angels 11:11
I've been toiling with the idea of posting this but decided it's worth it, so please bear with me.
Some years ago(about 3) I started seeing time sequences, typical was 11 past the hour and mostly 9:11. It happened virtually every day, by complete chance. A quick glance at the time and poof 9:11! I was thinking "this must have something to do with 9/11 and should I be considering doing something with it"? As time went on it got progressive. I started seeing number sequences with the number 11 in them just about everywhere I turned my head, 6:11 8:11 9:11 11:11 and so on. About one year ago to the day it really started to ramp up. I was still confused and a little scared of it's meaning. Shortly there after I was struck with my life's sins. Like a blow to the head. Feeling helpless and afraid, I turned it all over to God.
After getting myself on track with the Lord the numbers ramped up even more. This was no longer a daily thing, but hourly and coming from all sorts of sources, receipts, clocks, signs, radio, internet, cell phone etc. I brought this to the attention of my Pastor, he was stumped. So I started Googling the matter. I discovered I wasn't alone. I finally felt a little better knowing people around the globe were experiencing the exact same thing, some for decades even.
Enter the angels theory. The world of communicating with angels. I think it falls off the deep end from here, but maybe not. My journey leads me into rarely mentioned world of dealing with angels. It's my understanding that God provides us each with 2 angels. Ok I can accept that, sounds like something he would do. Then I learn of what may be lunacy or connection (you decide for yourself). I found out that some folks firmly believe that angels speak to us through prompts to get our attention, 11:11 being the most common. This led me right into the world of Urantia, for which I naturally backed out of real quick. None the less the numbers kept coming and still do. I prayed on it. I asked God flat out, "if these are Your angels, then let them speak loudly" and they did. By roughly Nov of 07' I was going insane with the prompts. Again, God if these are your angels speaking to me then let them speak loudly, and they did.
Being determined I kept pursuing the meaning. This led me into angel numbers. You can Goggle that all your own. During this odd time in my life (fall of 07') I was walking along in the garage where I work, I look down and see money on the floor. 1 dime and 1 penny, yep, 11 cents. By now this has become inescapable for me. Go to bed, it's 9:11, wake up, it's 4:11. make coffee ,look up at microwave, 5:11, get to work, glance at clock, 6:11. Getting an image yet?
The weirdest part was that it didn't start occurring until I was at my worst of thinking and sin. Should be no irony that the name Jesus Christ is 11 letters long.
I joined one of those 11:11 angels forums hoping for answers, but quickly found that they are stuck in a taboo world for me where someone named Christ Michael is our savior, and the Bible is slightly denounced and replaced by Urantia. I stood by the Gospel to the bitter end and was banned from the board within a couple of weeks. This doesn't suggest to me that angels and numeric signals are heresy, but rather be careful where I take this. These days I get the numeric signals virtually all day long now. But I am still brought back to the earliest days of it when God seemed to be putting devout Christians at my every turn in life. Then he finally dealt the blow I couldn't withstand and brought me to my knees. He showed me, me.
By now you may be thinking "this guy needs a shrink and quick". I never rule that out, but facts is facts. I'm not coercing clocks to change to 11 anything, I don't pump my gas until it hits $11.11, or anything else, it just happens. It only happens when I am never thinking about it. I call it "chance glance".
I was finally settled on the idea this is from heaven. I looked back at a moment in my life months ago as it peaked, when I heard a voice speak to me while in a near trance like state one night in my son's room after reading him to sleep. The voice said "your going to be ok, humility will reward you". Demons nor satan would never tell a person to humble them self. So I am firm in my beliefs there is something to the number 11. It's timing in my life is uncanny and appropriate. I haven't concluded too much and have adapted to living with it after asking God to define whats going on in regards to it, seems to be from him. It's now a daily part of my life and I accept it without fear now. There even a few websites that break the numerics of the Bible and of course, the 11 is front and center. I invite you to give me your opinion and feedback on this phenomena that is quietly and recently, grabbing the attention of thousands.
Brian
We encourage you to visit our new Christian discussion forum, as not every page can be commented on. So please, share your wisdom, share your testimonies, share your understanding. You can register for the new forum here and register for general comments to the pages on this drupal site here. Due to the lack of programming time, we have different registrations for different parts of the site.



11:11
my time on the clock was stuck at 311 for along time...3:11 alphabet letter K is 11th in order so KKK, flight 311 to LA to see my pastor brother..flight time to Atlanta to my other brother 3 hrs 11 minutes, room number 311 in hotel...then i got divorced and did alot of sins and was going by David Molloy and the clock struck 5:11 = Jared "davidMolloy", then i was speaking tounges and my family didnt understand me they said i was speaking jibberish and in my head it was flowing clearly i was feeling chills everytime i spoke tounges...i lost my sister my mom and my dad and im 25...my mom always told me i was special and believed i could use a 6th sense...which explains all the "coincidences" always in the right place at the right time to see the Numerology. After my mom died i got my angels, i've never been hurt and been in a roll over crash and in the ditch about 10 times...my mom always had good intuition she lost her parents before she was 25 also...anyways needless to say my clock turned from 3:11 to 11:11 and everything electronic stopped working around me...all i could hear was things i needed to hear to believe...i need to talk to others like me cause i am scared and my family wont listen to me, i truly believe we are close, i gave up my 85,000/yr job my wife left and i lost my house i have been walking with no money for 4 months and always make it through the day by finding ppl who have flat tires or need help..i only get enough to get back to my roommates, i stripped myself from all money and held things of my mom dad and sister and i felt guided by them to something greater than money or fame, i was called by the lord this much i know, i wish my Brother Kevin Lee Molloy would listen, he is a pastor but i am what he truly needs to lead ppl, he started his own church in Castaic California, i send out a SOS- Saviors of the Streets help me get to my brother and tell him so he can tell the masses, hes is not affiliated and is truly a godsend, never drank or done drugs or cheated he is Pure and like i always say i had to goto Hell to get to Heaven...it was always "Kevin To Heaven" he is at Hope Ministries, if you are reading this i am in Des Moines Iowa area and all i want is a ride to see him, Lord Help me get to my destination and ppl who help me we will truly save lives. Amen and Thank you Mom Dad and Vanessa i love you and i'll see you soon, and especially thank you LORD!!!!!!!
SOS
RSVP to Molloy50316@yahoo.com
Savior of the Streets
Jared David Molloy
1111
for years ive been seeing 11:11, till about a year ago when gave my life to christ, and since stopped seeing the numbers, any way i was told to google this today by someone i had mentioned it to and was astounded to see other people had experienced the same thing, is it a coincidence that i stopped seeing the numbers once i was saved? even though at the time i had NO clue of their meaning? also its mentioned that december 21, 2012 could be a date when something might happen, well the solstitce takes place on that date at, yes youve guessed it, 11:11, is god trying to tell us something?
god bless
lee
Angels 11:11
Hi!
I have read most of these e-mails and identify with most of the occurrences, which I have also experienced for the last 2 or 3 years. I will say at the start that I am not a conventional churchgoer, although I feel that I have a genuine love for God in my heart and have built up a reasonably strong faith over the last 30 years or so. I was interested in the comments that these 'signs' may be either from God or Satan. Some of your readers may be interested in an additional phenomenon that I have experienced. I am now in my 60's and have lived in my present bungalow for 40 years. I too have seen the time prompts, found new pennies, and picked up white feathers. Last March 4th I witnessed something I have never seen in the 40 years I have lived here. In my hallway it is very dark, and one morning I saw what appeared to be silver marks on the coconut mat inside the front door. I called my wife to look. It was as if someone had walked over the may with something on their shoes. I opened the front door to get a better look, and all the marks disappeared! I instantly felt such a fool when I realised that the marks were caused by light seeping under the front door - something that had NEVER happened before. We laughed and my wife went back to preparing her school lessons. I continued to look again at the mat, and before my eyes the 'spatters' formed into a perfect feather with all the little spines. I couldn't believe it - a feather made of light! I called my wife who also witnessed it. My point is this. I feel that only God would use a light source to create something like this, or am I wrong? Sincerely, Michael C.
Cheers Evangelicals - The military uses Scripture too !!!
Check this out saint.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100120/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_military_weapon...
Vikki
11:11 and My Interpretation
Hi All,
I too have been seeing 11's in almost every type of scenario...whether it's on a clock, on the background of a tv program, on license plates, etc. It started about 6 years ago for me and evolved into other combinations such as 222, 333, 444, etc., and further developed to seeing 11:00, 12:00, 1:00, etc. Yes, much of the meanings can be found with groups around numerology.I've also joined 11:11 groups, however they are overwhelmed with the numerology of it all.
To say that this is the devils work is totally insane. It's meaning should be metaphorically interpreted by the receiver and not be tugged in a different direction by others. If it makes you feel more connected with the Angels, Arcangels, Jesus, God....by all means make that connection. God is the creator of 'All things in the Universe'.
I feel a very special connection with the Angels when I see the numbers. This makes me more of a believer toward the Christian faith than any time before that. So for those who think it's Satan's work and when you see those numbers you automatically get a sense that Satan is near....think about it who is living in darkness?
Please, don't take the speck out of my eye when there is a log in yours!!!!
There are many internet sites about the this matter and all I 'truly' I say to you, make it what you wish it mean to you. If it makes you a stonger believer in the faith, then you will see that it's God's work. If you choose to bring fear into your life when you see the numbers, then your letting it be Satan's work.
I enjoy the communication from the Divine and will leave it at that!!
Blessings,
BB
Number 11 in my life again
Hello,
It has been several years since I remember seeing the number 11 on the clock. Tonight I happened to look and it was 11:11 p.m., and since it has been growing in occurrence I know that today I happened to see 9:11, 3:11, 4:11, 7:11, and then 11:11. It has really been increasing in the last few weeks. The last time it happened was around 12 years ago when I was going through a divorce, and I engulfed myself in to the bible. I prayed very hard that the marriage would be saved, but it could not be saved no matter what I tried. I felt a great loss, but now, I am thankful it did not last (hind sight), A few years ago, in 2006, my son was diagnosed with a Stage IV brain tumor. I do not remember the 11 phenomenon happening to me then like it is now or had been before, but then I was focusing on nothing but medical issues and I was the sole caretaker of my son. He is now healthy and fine by the way!!! We had a prayer chain going around the world! We were truly blessed and it was a miracle and another long story.
ANYWAY, why I'm here tonight is because I had once read about the connection between seeing a number all the time and your guardian angel trying to help you. Now, my (new) husband has suddenly (ironically a few weeks ago when this started for me with 11 again) come down with a serious health condition--great risk of becoming paralyzed from a bruised spinal cord with no trauma associated with it in an otherwise healthy 40 year old! He has anothe surgery coming up soon. This all makes me wonder....what is going on? Am I supposed to be doing something? Are my angels trying to tell me something? Do they sense something very significant is going on in my life? But if that's the case, why don't I remember the 11 thing while my son was so sick with cancer? He nearly died a few times. I googled it and came upon Numerology and I don't want to go there. It's interesting and coincidental, but my faith tells me not to "go there." So, I will just take comfort in discovering that I am not alone. If anyone has some advice or thoughts, please respond. Thank you very much.
11:11 and other variables of 11
Hi Cynthia and all,
I believe that the world is going through and evolution of sorts. That there are a few that have been choosen. They are communicated to by the Angels to fulfill something, but most of us don't know what were are to do. Many are coming to the realization that there is a whole lot more that we can do as humans than what we were told we can do. If you read the bible, you will find many examples of 'extraordinary' talents or powers...we are all healers, and need to be shown how to heal; we all have extra sensory perception, and need to learn how to use it; we all have a level of clairvoyance, and need to be shown how to use it. As a man thinketh, he shall believe. And believe that this is all from the Kingdom of God. Believe me this is from God. Meditate upon what I say and you will become aware of the great treasures from the Kingdom of God.
I see much of the 11's many times a day, and also the triple numbers like 222,333,444, etc. I've researched this and came to the conclusion that it is the Divinity that is communicating. There is no confusion in this, it's there and it's real. The only unknown is "what am I suppose to do". My advice, use your gut feel as your navagation system...'May the force be with you"....lol.
Blessings,
BB
Number Sightings
Yesterday, I glanced at my digital clock in my car. It said 7:77. After giving it a good smack it registered correctly. Was this something from God? I don't think so and I do not endorse any of the number sightings...
Be blessed...
A very interesting and
A very interesting and strange thing happened while I was reading this. No joke. I was Googling angles vs fallen angels and communicating with angels because a youth pastor I know had claimed to on several occasions speak to angels.
I am a born-again Christian since the age of six and am no stranger to paranormal or other-wise unexplained events. I think we've all experienced them.
Well, reading half way through these posts I looked up at the clock thinking, "It couldn't be.." but it was 11:11 PM EST. I asked my wife, what time is it? She repeated the same. I looked at the clock on the computer, 11:11. Also, in my spam mail folder for trying to sign up to this site, it was the 11th spam mail.
In looking at what all of you have posted I agree that Satan and the fallen angels are trying to pull people away with odd "coincidences", for sure. Away from knowledge and trust in Jesus Christ. Is 11:11 or any constantly occurring number combination inherently evil? No, I don't think so. I think it's the application of it.
God is not the author of confusion, He will not be confusing and distracting in His communication. The most sure communication from God we have is the Holy Bible (KJV being my personal favorite). Everything else should be tested. Test it with the parameters of scripture. If what you are hearing or seeing contradicts or is slightly off from what the Bible says, disregard it. Don't go seeking wonders or signs, but seek God in prayer and seek His Word, the Bible.
None of this spooks me out. I've even had prior knowledge and dejavu of events. I think everyone has. Main thing is, if God gives us a gift or a special insight into something in our lives , awesome, praise God! Praise the God of Abraham, Praise Jesus Christ, the Holy One of Israel! Don't let things like this make you feel set apart, special, powerful. Don't get puffed up and prideful about these types of things. Don't follow after strange events or false light.
Let your mind be on Christ, and put on Christ daily in your mind. Try and be like Him, and make your focus be on leading others to a saving knowledge of Christ and Him crucified, dead, buried, and most awesomely.. rose again!
Remember to test the spirits should you encounter anything strange. If fear grips you call out to Jesus. I speak this because I know people who have had attacks. Say out loud, "In the name of Jesus, I command you to leave." I know it may sound odd that I put this here, but I think it will help someone.
Praise God! Thank you Jesus!
Can anyone answer this question?
I too was seeing 9:11 repeatedly. Then one day, I was at a person's desk and 911 again jumped out at me on a little bible verse on this woman's phone. It was Palm 91:1. If you read te entirety of Psalm 91 it speaks about making the Lord your refuge. Which is exactly what I needed to do.
Lately I too was seeing 11:11 all of the time.
I am quite aware that that God speaks to all of us differently and that we are to only believe in Jesus Christ.
The other strange thing that happens to me is when I speak to different people sometimes, I can see almost a dark fog around their faces, at times. When I continue to talk to that person, they usually are disturbed at that time. I am trying to understand why this happens. I realize that sometimes satan tries to confuse us. I want to stear clear from anything evil. So if anywon has a clue about this. Give me an idea please? Not just a guess please. If you don't have the answer or aren't sure, then it's better not to say anything, i think. Thanks everyone.
11:11 is evil
I am a solid Christian... Now.... But once apon a time I felt I was very psychic and in tune with that around me. To the extent I could predict just about anything before it happened ("a brown car will come around that corner in exactly 9 seconds") or I could blindly search through a deck of cards and pick out any I had been asked to. I realize now that the "abilities" i'd been given was demonic power. It's wrong, bad, evil. And i'm so glad i'm all out for God now.
Even now I have very specific feelings when certain things happen. And I do believe this in particular is a gift from God. If someone is feeling depressed I feel God gives me a push emotionally to reach out and help. And when it comes to 11:11 (which i've experienced for many years now) I look at the very start of the minute of 11:11, and find it hard to look away until 11:12. While this happens I feel a mixture of fear and security. Fear because I feel it's so obviously Satanic, and security because I know God is with me protecting me and my faith when it occurs.
When it happens to you, please take it as it is. Satan trying to fool you into following beliefs other than that of our God. It's almost playing on the "Curiosity killed the cat" aspect of human nature.
God bless, everyone.
11:11
I AM A CHRISTIAN, AND WOULD NEVER BELIEVE IN ANY OTHER WAY.. MY LOVE FOR JESUS CHRIST IS SINCERE AND I PRAY ONLY TO MY LORD AND SAVIOR. SEVERAL YEARS AGO I NOTICED THAT I WAS SEEING THE CLOCK READ 11:11 EVERYDAY. MORNING AND NIGHT. I FELT SOMEWHAT UNEASY BUT I RELATED IT TO A EXPERIENCE THAT WAS JUST DIFFERENT. I LOST MY SON 9/7/94 AND JUST WOULD THINK OF HIM EACH TIME I SEEN THE CLOCK AND WOULD LET IT PASS. I NEVER TOLD ANYONE. THEN MY DAUGHTER WHO IS ALSO A CHRISTIAN, TOLD ME SHE WAS SEEING THE CLOCK 11:11 EVERYDAY AND SHE WOULD THINK OF HER BROTHER. SO WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A THING... THEN THIS PAST WEEKEND I SEEN MY NIECE AND SHE SHOWED ME A TATOO SHE HAD DONE ON HER BACK OF A LARGE TREE WITH ROOTS. AND ON ONE OF THE ROOTS WAS A SIGN THAT SAID 11:11. I ASKED HER ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID SHE SEES THE CLOCK 11:11 ALL THE TIME AND SHE TOLD ME TO LOOKED IT UP ON THE NET AND ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME.. I REALIZE THIS IS NEW AGE AND SOMEWHAT QUESTIONABLE... I READ THE BIBLE AND KEEP VERY CLOSE TO OTHER CHRISTIANS AND I HAVE FELT THAT GOD AND I HAVE A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP... I DO NOT EVER WANT TO LOOSE THIS CONNECTION WITH MY LORD, TO SUB TO A THING OF THE ENEMY TRYING TO CONFUSE ME.. BUT CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY THIS NUMBER POPS UP EVERYWHERE FOR ME AND MY DAUGHTER. WE DON'T LOOK FOR IT, OR ASK FOR IT, OR CONJURE IT UP. WE DON'T EVEN WANT IT.. JESUS IS THE LOVE OF OUR LIVES AND WE LOOK TO HIM FOR EVERYTHING. I NEVER WANT TO SUB FOR A NUMBER TO BRING ME INSIGHT TO ANYTHING. I KNOW THAT HE IS THERE PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE.. WHAT EVER THIS IS I AM AT PEACE WITH IT AND I AM NOT SPOOKED BY IT.. FOR OTHERS THAT FEEL THAT IT IS SATAN TACTICS TO BRING US INTO ANOTHER THOUGHT WAVE, I AM SURE YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO NOT WORSHIP A NUMBER.... WE JUST ALL EXPERIENCE SEEING IT. GOD HAS THE ANSWERS TO ALL THINGS. JUST KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIM.
All the things that we
All the things that we experience in our lives may not be from God. It might be a trick of the enemy to mislead or tempt us.
according to the bible
according to the bible verses, when a God's child sins, Holy spirit convicts that to that child and not angels. Read bible and for sure your you will come to know the sins and the mistakes you are doing. This is the prescribed way of the Lord. angel numbers are not biblical. whatever there in the Bible is authoritative. If something that happens out of that then it is not from the Lord. If you believe in angel numbers and hold on to that, then you are giving room for the devil to work on you in that particular part. it can easily deceive you( as it deceived eve. because eve believed more the word of satan than the word of God.) have your full faith in Lord so that he can work on you.
believing in angel number simply means unknowingly u have faith in the evil, and so as per ur faith it works on you. don't believe or have ur faith on that. satan is Father of lies and it can also make you to believe it as the angel of light. satan's trick is to show off something so attractive and make you believe that the particular thing is good for you.(as it did to eve) . to know this you should know the word of God and should be able to discern and analyse things as per the word of God.
as u said, jesus christ is 11 letters but only in english, not same if written in another language. do u think does numbers of someones name matters. if so then u r believing numerology which God hates. beware of that. God can help u according to ur faith. turn ur faith on him. There is no need for God to show that this is the 11th hour because everything is mentioned in Bible and moreover irrespective of the time(whether it is 11th hour or not) God wants us always to be ready n obedient. Even in the appostle's time itself they thought the end time is near. (no digital clock at that time :)) . again friends pls don't have ur faith on numbers or something that is not biblical.
2:22 on the 22nd
OH NO! I just awoke in the middle of the night. I took a look at my cell phone for the time and it said 2:22 am, Aug 22nd. Is there any significance in that?
Re: 2:22 on the 22nd.
Hi TIM
My wife and I have been seeing 1:05 every time we look at the clock for more than a week now.
I just found out today we forgot to wind it. "OOPS" sorry I thought I was on to something very spiritual concerning the end times.
ps. Tim maybe you should check your phone charger {:>)
JIM
True Story
Hi Jim, I had a friend years ago telling me how he always woke up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. whenever he passed the clock, it glowed 3:14 am. He was disturbed by this habit and awoke needing to use the bathroom. He determined to hold it a few minutes longer, and as he passed the clock, it glowed 3:14 am!
Sometimes you just can't win!
The Numbers Game
All these comments about 11:11 ; etc are ploys from Satan to get a person to seek after numbers....Again it stinks of numerology....It is a game and the coach is Satan....
Nothing More Nothing Less
The signifiance is that you awoke at this time......Nothing more nothing less....When one starts looking for things, ie 11:11 they will show up...I have never had this kind of encounter nor do I think that God is telling me to start searching for it....I believe it is a way to distract people away from the simplicity of the gospel....
My sentiments exactly! That
My sentiments exactly! That was early morning humor. I had to get up and post it before getting back to bed. It good to see your face!
I see it too
It all started with 9:11 then later on it evolved into 11:11... I don't think of it --- i even tried to get rid of it but it just keeps on popping up... I'm not really a religious person or a person with a solid faith... but I do struggle a lot to have faith in God everyday...
Im not a religious person
I'm not a religious person, never was or probably will never be. I'm a North American Indian, and North American Indians have their own religion like all Christians, muslims, Jehova Witnesses, etc. Most of the comments I've read have to do with religion, angels, devils, etc. Don't get me wrong, I believe there is a supreme being. But I don't think its religion or god for that matter. We all have different backgrounds, religions, upbringings, lives...etc, It is what it is and no one has a explanation for this "phenomenon" We could say anything and everyone can make their own judgement, I think its a reminder that we are "here" and we are "here" for a reason, whatever that may be. We are searching for answers and explanations in our lives to which we have no answers. LET's work together and come to one conclusion, we've all seen it, "11:11" and now what?
11s and Bible verses
Over the past several years I have been "followed around" by 11s. They come and go -- sometimes they don't show up for days or weeks or even months, and then they return. I googled on this topic this morning because they came back again yesterday. I don't usually get 11.11 but very often 6.11, 7.11, 9.11 and sometimes 3.11. One night a few months ago I woke straight up out of a sound sleep facing my alarm clock. My eyes popped open to 3.11.
This often seems to happen when I am lax in taking time for prayer, or being lazy or avoiding reading the Bible or devotion. It also seems to happen more when I am anxious about something. I seems to be a way that God tries to get my attention when I haven't been paying attention very much
I was reading a book a while ago in which the authors (a married couple) wrote about awakened in the middle of the night looking at the clock. They would take the numbers and pray and then look up the chapter and verse the numbers indicated in a book of the Bible they felt the Lord was leading them to read. Often this gave them guidance on something they were trying to deal with.
This sounded like it might be bordering on divination. Like many of you who have posted here, I am concerned about being led astray by something that has occult-y tinges. The authors were faithfully seeking God, however, and seriously prayed to be protected from illusions and that they would not pay any attention to anything not from Him. However, I have prayed about this more than once, and it is in serious prayer that the Lord Jesus seems to be trying to get my attention on this.
The 4 major prophets -- Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel all have some impressive verses at chapter 7,verse 11.
I also feel that we are being warned that it is the "Eleventh Hour." Very often recently as I look at a clock, it is 11 after the hour, and the number immediately jumps to 12. I don't just see 11 -- it is 11>12. Perhaps we really need to pray hard to be ready for whatever it is that is coming. If 11 is now moving right into midnight, we need to be in prayer: for the master of house returns at an hour the world does not know -- WATCH therefore....
E. Christine
11:11
Hi my name is Angel and I am a minister of the gospel. I keep seeing thiese numbers mainly 11:11. and sometimes 9:11 on diferent clocks I look at. I dont understand it either but I keep praying to God to open it to me. I am a God fearing preacher and I always preach and teach Jesus Christ. I love the Lord and I am a good and honest preacher of the gospel. I love the Lord with all my heart and soul. I have been through many battles and thanks through the grace of God I am still here. I am not scared but just curious, what does it mean. What is the Lord trying to tell me and why this way. I did go through a time in the past where I was betrayed by fellow ministers in the ministry. Being a real preacher of God has its moments where you are sometimes tired , fustrated, hurt emotionally and physically, discouraged, but God has led me through tough times and now I am in a good church and about to become a Pastor. Do you still get the numbers. Angel
Come out...come out
(The eleventh hour is fast approaching,..and even now is)
-------------
'COME OUT.... COME OUT'
Come out, Come out be separate. Do not partake in their sacrifices to idols. Those who are a friend of the world and its practices are an enemy of God.
Forked lightening shall separate the four corners of the world and my wrath will fall upon the wicked. Storms will brew and will not be tamed by man. It is I, the Lord, who sends the thunder and lightning from heaven. It is I that control the doors of heaven to withhold or pour the rains upon the earth.
The chariots with my horses in the heavens are ready at my command to do my bidding. It is time for war not peace. Those who say ‘Peace Peace’ to you are not from me. I am a God of War, my war thrown from the Throne room of Heaven. I will purge the earth from My Throne. The earth is my footstool.
Do you not know have you not heard there is only one God, one Saviour, one Lord of all the earth?
The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah is ‘white’ compared to the sin that now reigns over this generation on earth. The stench of it has reached my nostrils. The cries of injustice, cries of innocence of the children has pierced my heart. Vengeance is mine it will not go unpunished.
Be prepared. Be ready for when the Son of Man comes in all its Glory I will find I know few who have faith in me. The gate is narrow as is the path, few find it. For my names sake many will be persecuted some to prison and some unto death but blessed are those who are persecuted because of the name of Jesus, the only Testimony. The gift of long-suffering through my Holy Spirit is ignored but for those that suffer for my name great is thy reward in heaven.
You cannot pick and choose parts of My Word. It is ALL my Word and the mysteries of the gospel are given to those set apart for me who come out of all religious institutions established by man. I know those who have sincere hearts towards me, their hearts humbled before me.
Their servant hearts, gentle, dove-like lives guided by my Holy Spirit rests upon them. I know my sheep and they know me.
Oh tremble you nations! You pour contempt onto the name of the only one true living God, the Lord. I am the everlasting to everlasting. There is none beside me.
Wake up, Wake up, repent; humble yourselves before me before it is too late. The eleventh hour is fast approaching. My Hand is before the Day of Judgement. Repent.
Shofar girl
http://www.faithwriters.com/member-profile.php?id=26986
Don't Stray!
I've skimmed through all of these comments, and even saw 3:11 when I looked up from the Bible. I haven't "found" any answers, but my gut tells me this:
Life is too short to worry. Even the Bible has some verses talking about how even the birds always sing because they know that their needs will be provided. Why worry about this subject? After looking through this, I will live my life fully devoted, no matter what happens. Who will EVER find this answer to 11 11 unless it's in the Bible, or God tells someone Himself? If it is from God, I would be encouraged, and if it is from satan, then I would still be encouraged because I will fight the temptation to go back to my old ways. No matter what 11 11 means, we ALL must stay devoted to God and live like he wants us to live!
I also will ask to pray for those who believe in this "Christ Michael". They don't see the Truth... yet.
Overall there is one main point I wanted to say and the one point that is life, live for God! His goodness is uncontainable, and His mercy overflows! Praise the Lord ALWAYS. For every time you see an 11, praise God no matter who it's from!
11:11
hi. this whole 11 phenom is something that i ahve been trying to understnad and deal with for several years now. it is everywher and in everything. at first i though.. as many.. that i was just seeing things out of concidence.. but i blew past that very quickly. i look at all the 11's already in my life... my last name: CHRISTOPHER= 11 (IRONIC THAT CHRIST begins it... i thought that was funny at first) however when the sept 11 attack took place i stopped laughing.. know why?? i was born on 9-11. from the time i started seeing the 11's i also stared having dreams... dreams of heaven, angels, and even demons. these dream (nearly every night now) are so vivid that i actually am having problem diffenciating whether or not that i was actually sleeping. examples: in one in particular two angels spoke to me and they took me into a cave that was lighted by their bodies and i was told that i was chosen to lead the people to safety because a time of dread is approaching... they looked so real to me.. after that i felt like i was being stalked by something(in my waking hors) by something that couldn't see... something evil... sure enough on many occasions when i attempt to sleep i literally feel like i am being attacked by something but when i begin to pray it lets up and i find that i am wide awake.. i have gotten physical pains from it. in a crazy dream which i am not sure was a dream a demon spoke to me (and i shiver as i repeat this to you all) .. he said: "what does he feel he can do with you all; you all can't help him. i can help you.. come to me." i shit you not on that one. obviously i refused and told him no and the attacks got worse.. very soon after that with no valid explanation i was in a car crash where the car flipped over, crossed two lanes of traffic and almost went into a ditch if not for a tree and a light pole. the driver was avoslutely unharmed (barely a scratch i say) i on the other handalmost broke my neck, my head was severely wounded, almost broke my jaw, my left shoulder had the flesh conpletely severed (anymore and i would be one arm less) and so much more. when i was able to go home i had sleepless nights as a result of pains) and the voices returned. definitely i was not dreaming.. they kept calling my name and i was literally pinned to my bed on several occasions. never the less i kept with god. more so i started to research 11 11 and anything else i could connect to it. it is said to be a good thind of god but in seeing it and developing yourself in relation to it you will need to address matters of the antichrist, the illuminati, and the end of days. please take some time and research these things as they are very important if you seriously want to get to the bottom of 11 11 an dall of it's other denominations. good luck... i have already started and what i have read thus far have blown me away... it is a small piece of a very huge pie that involves everyone all over the world. feel free to email me skyeminent@hotmail.com
why all the focus on 11:11
I don't know why people are so consume with this 11:11 phenomenon, I am from a small Caribbean island Barbados, and a few years back each time I look at my video player or digital clock whether morning or night I would see 11:11, not only me but my children notice it and my husband also, they mentioned it to me, which I confirmed that the same thing happens to me. I don't think that is it any thing of great significant just to see 11:11. What we should focus on is the great commission winning the lost. I should believe that it happens to the save and unsaved seeing the number.
Just my opinion.
Am I Lost ???
Am I lost since I have never been besieged with this phenomenon???...I agree with you Sunflower....I have never been caught up into this phenomenon and I do not want to since it smells a bit like numerology....
11:11 Revealed :>)
This Phenomenon has no more significance, than the electric has gone off, causing all of their digital clocks to display for a reset.
Talking with angels
In this in not talking with Holy angels, and talking with God you would have to turn to him, you have to turn from sin, your deception, dishonesty, talk to God
HOLY BIBLE
in the Bible it says do not speak to the angels lest they get tired of you and your worldly ways.
Women should keep their athority for the sake of the angels, they should have a mark upon their head.
Holy angels
I used to talk with angels, I have schizophrenia, and now know that the Law is good and best, I stopped talking with that angel I felt I had in childhood because she appeared in my dreams, was looking fishy in that, well, I want to be healed by God. I don't talk with angels, I talk with God, if he put that first verse in Bible, well a good test, of a good angel, is that they do not ask of you to talk with them, they would be a snare, or intending that they plain old do not plan to stick around. If you want them to be around, don't talk with them, they are going to hear in your voice the stress of having to do the laundry, paying bills, on and on. For the second verse the key there, is for SAKE of the angels. I am a women, and when I first heard this verse well, I didn't hear it well, but this time, I heard before I heard this verse, some-one in the Bible saying do you not know that we will judge angels? I got afraid for the angels, but if I keep my authority, perhaps they would not be in peril..
Jesus is the King of Angels
wow im blown away first of
wow im blown away first of all im a christian mom of 3 Ive never commented on anything online ever I am hardley ever on the computer . For the last 3 months I have been seeing every day without fail 111 222 333 444 555 and 1111 on the digital clocks in our house. I decided to do a search today to see if there is a biblical significance of this at all. I strongly feel like God is warning of something I really feel it is a warning. Since Jan of this year I have been drawing closer to the Lord. I have a prayer partner that I pray with and God has been speaking to both of us about getting serious about loving others with an unconditional nonjudgemental love of christ. We both have stepped out in differnt ways to minister His love and have seen amazing things happening. We have never been a family to store food or water but just yesterday I went to costco and stocked up on bulk rice water and canned veggies both my husband and ihave been feeling the need to do this and I could not shake the feeling yesterday after seeing 11:11 on the clock.GOD woke me up at 3 in the morning and impressed on my heart to go turn the tv on I put on fox news and there was a report about an asteroid that a weather camera had picked up in the state of washington this is some months back. The amazing thing about this was I had been having dreams of balls of fire hurling down to earth. This news reprt was never played again I was waiting to hear this on the next days news but it was nowhere had I not been woken up and turned the news on at 3 inthe morning I nver wouldve known about it. I never get up and do that it was very unusual for me to do that. I believe it was a confirmation of my dreams.Lets all keep our hearts and minds focused on winning as many to Christ as we can . Time is running out and judgement is coming. The true sheep can hear the voice of their shepherd and I feel He is trying to get our attention. He can use a clock or anything else He wants to. I have no fear at all He loves us and the evil around us is no match for Jesus Christ. Remember every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!
Well it's good to see hear
Well it's good to see hear some people that aren't buying into thie Uratia stuff. The "11:11 phenomena" started happening to me about 2 months ago. I see 11:11, 1:11, 12:12, and 9:11 the most. I tried to ignore it for a long time but now it's ridiculous how often it is happening so I finally decided to google it. I thought it was interesting about the angels as well, but then when I discovered the stuff on Uratia and how it is "superior" to the bible, which led me to immediately flee. I've been praying for God to clarify to me what these signs mean, but for some reason I've always had a hard time hearing Him. I am going through some rather scary things in my life right now and feel like He's letting me know that he's , or someone sent by Him, is protecting me.
I do not believe these are signs that judgement is near and it is the end of times. I think the Bible is pretty clear in that things are going to be much worse than they are now. I do think it's possible that December 21, 2012 could be a date when something happens. Revelations says that there will be 7 trumpets, or big changes, that will be signs that the end of times is near.
Anyways, glad to see some fellow Christians are experiencing some of the same. It's really hard to explain this to someone unless you experience it yourself.
God Bless,
Mike
11:11
for years ive been seeing 11:11, till about a year ago when gave my life to christ, and since stopped seeing the numbers, any way i was told to google this today by someone i had mentioned it to and was astounded to see other people had experienced the same thing, is it a coincidence that i stopped seeing the numbers once i was saved? even though at the time i had NO clue of their meaning? also its mentioned that december 21, 2012 could be a date when something might happen, well the solstitce takes place on that date at, yes youve guessed it, 11:11, is god trying to tell us something?
god bless
lee
11 is the number of judgment
I believe the 11:11 significance is God's warning that His judgment is upon us. The number 11 means disorder and judgment. God’s true prophets have been warning for over 30 years that if America did not repent and turn back to God that His judgment would come upon this land. It has been ramping up for years. The Lord is patient and wants as many as possible to repent. (2 Pet 3:9) But He will not strive with man forever. (Gen 6:3). I have also been seeing the numbers 11:11 and 1:11 since around March 2008, which is right after I re-dedicated my life to Jesus and have become a disciple. The Lord then started showing me that His judgment is coming and to prepare spiritually for the shaking that is coming to America and the world. The occult has latched onto this and that should not be a surprise as Satan does not have the ability of creative thought and therefore he counterfeits everything God creates. Numbers mean something to God, for example the stock market crashed 777 points on September 29, 2008 which is Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. Here is a helpful website about numbers from the Biblical perspective.
http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/introduct...
I agree with many comments to get your focus on doing the will of the Father and leading others to Christ. I also urge you to pray for the sheep with out ceasing as many have fallen into apostasy and gross sin.
Check out these sites:
http://www.unitedstatesprophecy.com/
http://www.watchmanscry.com/
In Christ! Sara
just to add a voice
I know I am an Angel. I recieved a call in church. I see 11:11 of course as do most of my friends and family. It is a wake up, it is also a warning "It's the 11th hour of the 11th hour", time is short. I would tell my story here but it would take a while.
WOW!!!!
WOW ME TOOOO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS MEANS?
My story...
I’m in my late thirties. For two days I’ve been “google-ing” 11:11 and that is how I found this blog. Here is my story:
Since my early teenage years I have had the “11:11 experience”. I’d be laying in bed at night and would maybe glance over at the clock once the entire night, and most times it was 11:11. Sometimes I’d be asleep, would wake up, look at the clock and, you guessed it, 11:11. I’ll be working at my desk and will be drawn to look at the clock at 11:11. I’ve largely ignored this part of my life until recently:
Last year my oldest son (13 at the time) came into the kitchen where my wife and I were talking and proclaimed that he thought it was funny and odd that almost every time he looks at a clock at night, it reads 11:11. I have NEVER mentioned my “11:11″ thing to anyone in the world except my wife, and she has NEVER repeated it to anyone else, including our kids. After my son left the room, my wife asked me if I had said anything to our son about my 11:11 experiences. I said no, and we both knew this was more than a coincidence.
A few months ago, our second oldest child (also a boy, 12 years old) told us that he is now always seeing 11:11. He HAS heard his brother talk about this, so I wasn’t sure if perhaps he was manifesting his brother’s experiences onto himself. Last week, this child was sick with the flu and went to bed right after school, without eating dinner. Before going to bed for the evening, I went down to his bedroom to check on him (normally my wife would always do this). I felt his forhead for a fever (none) and he jumped awake, clearly startled. He asked me what time it was and then we both looked at his clock…11:11pm.
A couple days ago, on a whim, I typed 11:11 into the google search engine and was surprised (and somewhat relieved) at how many other people have had similar experiences. I am quite sane, I am a upper-income family man who is devoted to his wife and kids; and I want to make it clear to anyone who reads this entry: I believe in and have received Jesus Christ as The Lord and Savior over my life. I believe anyone who is involved in the practice of “numerology” is on a path of falsehood, a path to ruin for their soul. Jesus is The only Answer to eternal salvation.
That being said, I am more than a bit perplexed by 11:11 in my life and now, two of my kids’ lives. Is this a message from God? If so, what does it mean? I have prayed about this, but have received no recognizable message to my questions.
I shared this story with you all because I know I felt a little better once I found out that there are others out there who are going through the same situation. My personal belief is that, when the time is right, each of us will know. Until then, I suggest we all either get to know or continue to grow in our relationship with The Savior, Jesus Christ; He is the Way.
Peace be with you.
Me too
I too have the # 11 thing happen. I am a devout Christian, and have been experiencing this for years. I never thought to look this up, until my step daughter shared with me that this happens to her too. I had no idea how prevalent this is. This is what I have always done. I have always thought of this as a gift to me from God. I take an entire minute when this happens and Praise Him like crazy. I kind of thought of this occurrence as His way to confirm His existence in my day, give me comfort, support, and an opportunity to remember to put Him first. Jesus Christ is my Savior, and I will be very certain next time to make sure I mention His name in my praise and ask Him to let me know if there is something more I should be aware of. I am completely aware that the evil roams around like a lion, and I wouldn't put him past being behind this in some form or fashion, but I have never even considered that this could be anything other than from the Lord and an opportunity to give Him praise.
Many Blessings,
Betsy
I TOO!!!
BROTHER HI MY NAME IS CAROL I TOO HAVE THESE SIMILAR EXPERINCES I SEE 11:11 SO MANY TIMES. I HAVE COME TO CONCLUDE THAT THIS IS PR0BABLY SOMETHING WE BOTH SHOUULD FIFURE. I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER. WHEN YOU FIND SOMETHING PLEASE TELL ME
It is interesting that so
It is interesting that so many things have taken superiority over the Word of God in this world and in our hearts. This I must condemn here and now, while it is part of conversation. What I mean is that when someone talks about something, what comes to mind is something like "gnosticism" or "New Age."
Like how you, Peer, quoted Scripture, and the immediate reply was that you sound like you're reading gnosticism. Or when you thought that if you quoted the full verse, it would've been mistaken for gnosticism.
I find this interesting, because so many things have been taken from the Word of God that when we here something, we think of the program or book, or whatever that now represents it.
In case you may not be following me, here are some examples. The is a song by the Byrds that contains a passage from Ecclesiastes 3. For mayn people, when they hear these words they think of this song, but not the Scripture that it originally came from.
If you have ever been involved in the 12 step programs (AA, NA, etc.), you may hear someone quoting Scripture or you may just hear something, and what comes to mind is something from "The Big Book."
This is all wrong, because what should be the basis for our thinking is the Word of God alone. It is simply backwards. Things from gnosticism should remind us of Scripture. The songs that contain Scripture should remind us of Scripture. Everything should cause us to think Scripture or about Scripture and when it is reversed, it is wrong.
"Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee."
- Psalm 119:11
11I will remember the works of the LORD: surely I will remember thy wonders of old.
12I will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings.
- Psalm 77:11-12
14I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches.
15I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways.
16I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.
- Psalm 119:14-16
?I just thought I'd bring this out in the open so that maybe the Spirit might work in us to reverse the natural tendencies we have to accredit others and other sources that which rightfully belongs to the Almighty!
re it is interesting that...
jeseedavis,
When I mentioned a remark by peer as being gnostic sounding, I was not in any way referring to his quotes from scripture.
He wrote:
"Every child of God needs remember that all things in this Universe are Created by God, " for in Him we live and move and have our being" (Acts 17_28...)- the being of all things exists within God or the Will of God. "
me: I sure agree with the first part of this...but we and the angels were created as free will agents...some of the angels chose to rebel, and then mankind disobeyed, but God does not "will" the forces of evil. Being in rebellion, they act within their own volition, as they were created to be able to do that. God does not "will" that any of mankind should do evil, in fact he says that He came that "they might be saved." But all won't receive God's provision for salvation, scripture says that too.
"If all things emanate or exist within the Being and Will of God there can be no special or unique energies that are the province of Satan, angels, spirits or whatever supernatural agency."
me: I don't see scripture saying this..."province" means administrative division, sphere , zone, region etc... the fallen angels most certainly do have dominion over areas of creation that are at odds with the redeemed of the Lord... Eph.6:12, and mankind through their own "will" lives in agreement with the fallen spirit realm if they refuse God's provision for salvation...Jesus. I believe that the (from Gen. 6) offspring of the union between the fallen angels and daughters of men are for the most part the demonic realm...the souls of these beings were not human, but not totally angelic. And they will be judged and condemned, just as the fallen angels will.
Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
Jud 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
"Fact is that the entire Creation is groaning (Ro. 8_18...) and with it all mankind and even we Believers are groaning waiting to be shed of our corrupt and dying bodies to clothe ourselves with that which is fitting to the new spiritual self created within. '
me: I sure agree with that...that is one of my favorite verses
"It is because of the fall of all things physical (that which is of the dust) that Satan holding the power of death and influence over the physical realm is able to influence that which is physical- various forms of energy etc. Where is temptation planted- is it planted in our spiritual mind or our natural mind? Surely the natural mind which is of dust(neuro-physiological) and influenced by dust based processes."
me: this is what had me think of gnostic writing...in Genesis it says Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
Man was created from the beginning of dust...but God said His creation was "good."
It is what is in the heart that makes mankind evil, scripture says the heart of man is "desperately wicked," and cannot be trusted. Only the new creation in Christ...those that are born of the Spirit and live in and through Him, will know redemption and everlasting life in the resurrected state.
But back to my original post here about the 11 thing. It is posted already, so I won't re-write it. But as believers we are not, obviously, to look for "signs" and such as the pagans do. And I do not. But I do see it, as many here say, and it has nothing to do with me "looking for it." I simply believe we are in the 11th hour, and we need to get our house in order, as peer said, and I can't agree more. If it "freaks" anyone out, then they need to get real serious about their walk with God and do it now. We are MEANT to KNOW we are saved, and KNOW we have security in Christ Jesus, as we have relationship with Him. It has to be a priority!
Psalm 119:104 Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way...105 Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.
Isabeau- to basics
Isanbeau,
PART 1
======
I am surprised that you justified your posting to Jesse- when in fact it was to me you should have put your concerns. You have posted twice to me but in neither of these have you presented your careful discussions that you presented to Jesse?
(2) There is huge discord between what I write and your responses.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets take your April 8th Response:
3.1: Quotations from Eph 6 and Col 2 - you don't explain why you include these? Is it implying that I might be influenced by spirits, agencies or what?
3.2 You state that I sound gnostic- here you state that I sound gnostic without a reference- nor in your next posting ( a response to my response) do you correct this?
3.3 You go on to state "that you are confident in your salvation"- Isabeau, I never addressed your Salvation this is hidden in Christ and between you and Christ.
===========================================
PART 2
=======
Isabeanu,
I will work through your posting to Jesse- you made several points, as I said to you, you should have addressed them to me in your postings to me. Here they are:
(1) Free Will
===========
You write that "We and the angels were creates as free will agents- as some agents chose to disobey- but God does not will the forces of evil.
Again if you read what I wrote: "The being of all things exists within God, or the Will of God" What does the Scripture, "The being of all things exists within God"? mean or , How do we move, speak and exist within God's being?
1.2 You state that I imply that "God wills man to do evil" or that God wills the forces of evil"
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not sure where you get this from? You bring to what I write many presumptions which color your reading of my writing.
I did not say "All is motivated by God's Will" that would imply that God is doing, not man. I stated that God's Will supports all things.
An atom exists because it is supported by the Will of God. You Isabeau, exist because you are supported by the Will of God. Gravity exists because it is supported by the Will of God. If God's Will is removed, then Gravity is not suspended, it was "never". Satan exists because his existence is supported by the Will of God.
So, take Gravity- it exists because of the Will of God, according to His determination,
I might use gravity as a weapon- by dropping a bowl on someone's head- is God imputed as evil because of this? No, I am responsible. I used the effects of Creation for my own ends- by the volition given me.
Do- I have "free will"- no. This implies I am free to choose or consider choosing without restraint. I can provide many biblical instances that show this is not so. Our freedom is that of a train but limited to the tracks of city planning. If it leaves the tracks, well "the trains freedom is terminated quickly".
A person can be constrained by God without even knowing it.
Read the account of Abimelech & Sarah (Ge. 20_6), Abmelech states that he is innocent, God replies, "For I also withheld you from sinning against Me; therefore I did not let you touch her." Abimelech did not know that he was constrained but so he was! In a like way- Pharoah did not know that his heart was hardened!
Remember these words: "I also withheld you from sinning against Me" & " I did not let you touch her".
What is this Isabeau if not the Will of God in force. God's Will acting according to his Plan for Abraham and Sarah in the matter of childbearing?
This is supported in Psalm 139_16
---------------------------------------------------------------
."...And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them. (Psalm 139_16)
Please take note "the days fashioned for me"- fashioned indicates not just a count but a shaping of the substance of the day.
1.3 Evil Spirits, Angels act according to their own provinces
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
there is nothing in what I wrote that suggested that evil angelic forces, spirits etc. don't act against the Redeemed of the Lord- or attempt to thwart the Angels of God. But the angels of God and the fallen angels are not God. God acts according to his Plan which is Perfect.
Take note- Scripture states that God knows the end from the Beginning, if this were not so we would not have the Book of Revelation. Further we know that Jesus was lifted up and given Authority and Power beyond all things, so if this is so, then if God so willed these "angels who act to thwart us Believers" could be dispatched without a consideration.
Fact is they are not- because of the Plan of God, all is required to bring a wonderful conclusion. God's Will supports His Plan.
------------------------------
<> Job 1, 2 -> Satan is constrained by the "hedge of God", this is effected by God's Will.
<> John 19_10,11 -> Pilots power over Jesus
<> Luke 4_5-7 ->sSatan declares the source of his power
John 19- Jesus declares that Pilot has no power other than that awarded him.
Job 1,2 -> Satan acknowledges God's Protection over Job, God extends permission to Satan within boundaries to afflict Job. Job in turn not once acknowledges Satan's hand but the Person in Whom Power and Authority rests- our Lord.
Luke 4_5-7, Satan declares the basis of his authority- it has been given to him!
Prayer according to the Will of God: In 1 Jn 5_14 this in turn establishes the matter that for prayer to be granted we must pray within the boundaries of God's Will.
----------------------------------
(2) Unique Energies
--------------------------
Most assuredly we read in the bible that there are all manners of creatures, angelic forces, spirits and a swarm of Heavenly Creatures of different potential- but no where does it state that they are the creators of any form of energy- or power- or laws. How do I know?
For Scripture states that " All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made" (Jn 1: 1-3).
"All things" means "all things".
So, on what grounds do you suggest that Angels or spirits have access to energies that were not created through the Word of God. The bible does not accredit angels or man with the ability to create anything- all creative works arise from God.
(4) Introduction of matters out of context
---------------------------------------------------
You then allude to the fallen angels- cohabitation with women (Genesis 6, Jude) why? what has this to do with what I stated? No one is denying that these things existed. I would put to you, that you write about these things, because these things fill your mind. Don't spend time on this stuff. Be balanced in your ministry and your mind will be balanced.
(5) Natural Mind
<> "God's Creation Good" No where did I declare that God's Creation was not good. - I must conclude that all these assertions are "straw dogs" set up so that you can introduce those subjects of your choice.
<> "Widkedness in the Heart"
And here I was refering to reborn Christians- why, because I assumed that you are reborn.
Now I made no statement about the heart- so why write about the heart? I was referring to the flesh and temptation.
Temptation is planted in the natural man's mind or if you wish- "the brain!" If we are married and see a beautiful women, temptation is planted when we persist in the "seeing". This is not of the spirit, it belongs to the natural man's instruments- the eyes, and if we persist in looking it reaches the brain- all we have to do- is allow our spirit, renewed and dwlet in by the Holy Spirit to address our natural mind, "LOOK AWAY" Do you get the picture].
If we put to death the flesh, then temptation has no ground. (Read the whole of Ro. 8). We might be tempted but it does not take hold.
Satan does not tempt my spirit or in dwell my spirit, nor do his spiritual allies. He goes for my natural mind- the flesh and the emotions etc. For my spirit has been birthed of God, sealed by the Holy Spirit and guarded by the same Spirit. This is my experience, not theory.
======================
You quote many verses like Ro 12: 1,2 out of context- maybe you were suggesting that I needed my mind transformed. Maybe I do, I pray for the Lord to renew all parts every day, so what is not renewed will be in time.
I am not sure if you know what Paul means by Ro 12: 1,2 or Ephesians 4? I leave this in your hands.
---------------------------
Isabeau,
I would advise you to put aside many of the books you have mentioned and focus on the bible and empowerment from the Spirit- this is sufficient for all ministry. Receive directly and only from Scripture through the Holy Spirit- it will do wonders for you. You yourself suggested turning off the T.V. wonderful advice close to my own heart. Now take your advice with respect to all the books you read- "switch them off" and "switch on your bible".
Go well and be a good witness to Jesus,
Peer.
re To Basics
Peer,
I am sorry this all got out of order...I guess I was thinking you both would see it, but I see I assumed what I should not have. Please understand I now know that you have broken down what you mean, I am comprehending this, and I do not think you are gnostic. It was the reference to "dust based processes" that sounded an alarm, but I know now what you are talking about.
Lets take your April 8th Response:
3.1: Quotations from Eph 6 and Col 2 - you don't explain why you include these? Is it implying that I might be influenced by spirits, agencies or what?
No, not at all. I don't see that in anything you write.
3.2 You state that I sound gnostic- here you state that I sound gnostic without a reference- nor in your next posting ( a response to my response) do you correct this?
It was the reference to "dust based processes" that sounded an alarm, but I know now what you are talking about. (a form of gnosticism was the belief that anything in the physical realm was "evil", and only "spirit" was good, but Genesis proves that is not so...)
3.3 You go on to state "that you are confident in your salvation"- Isabeau, I never addressed your Salvation this is hidden in Christ and between you and Christ.
I only said that in reference to the fallen angel remark, and you thought it filled my mind. Actually, from day to day, I rarely think of that in particular. But recently, we had started going to a church where we had some real hope that they were solid bible, not into "charismania", etc...but it turns out they are embracing the Lakeland debacle, and the teachers associated with it. It has been very disappointing, and I have been seeking to communicate to them about what is behind the TB program. (please understand, I do not discuss the "11" thing with anyone but close friends who really know me...the Holy Spirit has instilled the discernment within me to know when to keep silent, etc..)
"I did not say "All is motivated by God's Will" that would imply that God is doing, not man. I stated that God's Will supports all things.
An atom exists because it is supported by the Will of God. You Isabeau, exist because you are supported by the Will of God. Gravity exists because it is supported by the Will of God. If God's Will is removed, then Gravity is not suspended, it was "never". Satan exists because his existence is supported by the Will of God."
me: I agree with that totally, and I think it is semantics and nothing more that derailed our communication...I am in agreement with you.
"A person can be constrained by God without even knowing it."
me: Yes...I have had that happen to me quite dramatically not too long ago. In fact, it was quite a gut wrenching experience, but I was amazed at what God showed me...turns out HE was the faithful one, and in my ignorance kept me from something that He had no part of. (long story..)
"there is nothing in what I wrote that suggested that evil angelic forces, spirits etc. don't act against the Redeemed of the Lord- or attempt to thwart the Angels of God. But the angels of God and the fallen angels are not God. God acts according to his Plan which is Perfect."
me: I really am on the same page..I agree with you. What you said in your first response to me was not so clear, but this is clear.
"So, on what grounds do you suggest that Angels or spirits have access to energies that were not created through the Word of God. The bible does not accredit angels or man with the ability to create anything- all creative works arise from God."
me: and I am in total agreement
"Now I made no statement about the heart- so why write about the heart? I was referring to the flesh and temptation.
Temptation is planted in the natural man's mind or if you wish- "the brain!" If we are married and see a beautiful women, temptation is planted when we persist in the "seeing". This is not of the spirit, it belongs to the natural man's instruments- the eyes, and if we persist in looking it reaches the brain- all we have to do- is allow our spirit, renewed and dwelt in by the Holy Spirit to address our natural mind, "LOOK AWAY" Do you get the picture]."
me: yes...my suspicions are correct...YOU are a MAN!...but I do not hold that against you, because it is not your fault...
I mentioned the "heart' actually because it, according to how scripture uses the term, is the seat of our innermost motivation...not so much "emotion", as we use the term from day to day (as in love is a warm puppy, etc...)
"You quote many verses like Ro 12: 1,2 out of context- maybe you were suggesting that I needed my mind transformed. Maybe I do, I pray for the Lord to renew all parts every day, so what is not renewed will be in time."
me:I don't know...do you? I mean, it could be a "guy thing"...in that respect, yes...you need your mind transformed...
(sorry...the temptation to be flippant overcame me...)
me: actually, that was in direct reference to the issue of "soul power" that I was seeking to explain as being the "will" of an individual. It is not a simple subject for this limited place to write about, but it is not really so "esoteric" as it may sound, and is connected to Gen.3:5. I believe without question that every believer has a full time job of having their minds transformed. Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. (this having to do with man's "will"...and the "will" of God...our entire life is engaged in this transformation...)
I appreciate the time you took to respond, I am glad this was clarified. I am not a mathematician, by any stretch of the imagination, but I have for years been fascinated with physics, as the concepts I can discuss if the formulas are left out. It is real enjoyment to discover in scripture where God has declared the architecture of His creation...and He has done it all for us. Years ago I attended Chuck Missler's bible studies in S Calif. at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa. He does a wonderful job on the subject of "stretching the heavens" (Is.40:22...www.khouse.org...also, look at the radio program about the speed of light slowing down...it is very amazing.)
May the Lord bless your own ministry, and may He expand your territory.
Isabeau
Psalm 119:104 Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way...105 Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.
I meant no offense to
I meant no offense to anyone, except to those that are unwilling to change in the Spirit.
All I meant is that this is often done. Scripture is said or a part of it is said, and it reminds someone of some pagan teaching or something. It should be the other way around.
As for this situation, thank you for clarifying the conversation. It really helped. I see that what I brought up had nothing to do with the conversation, oh well, the fact does remain that this does happen all too often.
Thanks again, and I'm sorry if you were hurt or offended in any way and also for the accusation that this did apply.
The Tao Beats have a message!
Isabeau-
Every child of God needs remember that all things in this Universe are Created by God, " for in Him we live and move and have our being" (Acts 17_28...)- the being of all things exists within God or the Will of God.
If all things emanate or exist within the Being and Will of God there can be no special or unique energies that are the province of Satan, angels, spirits or whatever supernatural agency.
Fact is that the entire Creation is groaning (Ro. 8_18...) and with it all mankind and even we Believers are groaning waiting to be shed of our corrupt and dying bodies to clothe ourselves with that which is fitting to the new spiritual self created within.
-------------------------
It is because of the fall of all things physical (that which is of the dust) that Satan holding the power of death and influence over the physical realm is able to influence that which is physical- various forms of energy etc. Where is temptation planted- is it planted in our spiritual mind or our natural mind? Surely the natural mind which is of dust(neuro-physiological) and influenced by dust based processes.
No! We should not pay any attention to coincidences of the third degree (synchronicity)- whether events or numbers, all of these belong to the realm of the material which is fallen and suspect.
We are called to pay attention to that which is spiritual by "Being renewed in the spirit of our mind..." (Eph. 4_20-24) pursuing spiritual things (1 Titus 6_11-15).
Those who walk in fellowship with God, attending to the Spirit are not in any way influenced or threatened by numerical coincidence or synchronicity of events. The danger arises when we develop an interest, an unhealthy interest in these fallen processes- which are under the control of the prince of the air as are all material things.
Let's heed the words of Isaiah (Isaiah 8) where we are commanded to avoid the peepings and squeekings of Satan controlled and motivated phenomena and attend to the "Law and Testimony" which is the Law of Christ and His Gospel!
-------------------------------
Our treasure lies where our heart lies and so does our spiritual power. When we invest our attention in fallen processes, our power is derived from these processes, when we invest our intention in the Word of God, our power lies in the Spirit of God!
If you wish to see the true base of the power of a man (Todd Bentley etc.) check out their teachings. When I first investigated Todd Bentley, I went directly to his web site to read up on what he taught. Sufficient to say, I found nothing of substance- that is no substantial teaching of Christ- there ended my investigation.
I then knew that his source of power lay in that which is fallen- and this power is that which reigns over the fallen and lost- subsequent events have validated this opinion.
--------------------------
If these numbers and strange "tao beats" have any message,
it has to be: "get your house in order for the great Day of the Lord is approaching- stop listening and start reading the Bible"
-------------------
Carry on as you are so doing by your article attending to that which is of Christ.
re "Tao Beats"
Peer,
Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Eph 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Col 2:15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
You sound as though you have been reading some Gnostic literature, as their philosophy of the nature of "matter and spirit" is partly what you are describing.
My Bible tells me we live in a spiritual reality, as Paul says above...in the book of Revelation, satan will be cast out of the heavenly spiritual realms once and for all.
I am quite secure in my salvation...He has providing for me in many amazing ways, His timing is always perfect. My time in the mission field in Japan was something He put together from start to finish...without His supernatural hand on my life it would have been impossible. God has given me many prophetic dreams, and they have all come to pass. The gifts of God through the Holy Spirit are for today...they are to bless and encourage others. God is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow.
Psalm 119:104 Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way...105 Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.
too the gospel!
Isabeau-
It is good that you are on the lookout for strange messages- keep it up! But no- I don't read gnosticism- the Word of God is a sufficiency in its self.
I have no particular interest in coincidence or synchronicity (read the other posts). My interest in matter-energy etc. arises out of my field of study in mathematics and physics. I came to the conclusion that mathematics is not independent of physics or rather mathematics arises out of "gravity, matter and energy"- the mystery of time arises out of this too- established by the Word of God where it states, "God Stretched out the Heavens".
Further, a careful reading of Hebrews 4_12,13- tells us much about spirit, soul and body- for we learn something about the divisions of our personality.
This is an important Scripture as it reveals in its wording a clear order of divisions of the human personality. For not only does it divide the spiritual from the physical but each is subdivided in turn- and here lies the mystery established in Genesis 1.
My posting made a statement about the power that Satan exerts over fallen man (Col 1_13,14) and this fallen universe. The fall of man coincides with the fall of the physical universe (Ro 8-18-25). We know that Satan's power was defeated on the Cross and the time will come when this power of death will be swallowed up (Heb. 2_14-16 and 1Cor 15). We as believers though reborn understand that our body is yet under the power of death (my body is certainly decaying and dying) until we receive an immortal, glorified body (1Co. 15) at our resurrection or translation.
-----------------------------------
My quotation about having our being in God is a direct quotation from Paul taken from his address to the Areopagus:
" so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring. (Acts 17_27, 28 NKJ).
Here Paul states that God is not far from us- this is supported by Isaiah where God declares himself to be a God who is neither near or far! Further Paul states through the Spirit, "we live, move and have our being in God". Here Paul is not implying that everything is "god" which would be Hinduism but rather Paul is stating that everything exists by God's Will.
I purposefully "partially quoted" Paul out of fear that were I to quote him completely- I would be accused of gnosticism- (I can only chuckle).
On subtle energies, kundalini, etc.
-------------------------------------------
I mentioned this because of what you wrote. Scripture talks about Beings who carry out wickedness. However, these beings cannot create anything- whether matter or energy or anything. As for soul power and kundalini power which you quoted in your posting- the Word of God does not directly discuss "such energies". What the Word God does state is that there are powers of Wickedness in the Heavenly places (Eph 6)- which influence mankind and wage war against the Saints. This we know as we know there are evil spirits that oppress and possess unbelievers and can oppress believers. For those believers that walk persistently in sin, these can destroy their flesh!
Satan and spirits would like to puff themselves up with talk about kundalini, subtle energy whatever. Fact is, the phenomena in question is no more than the presence and working of evil spirits directly acting through the body. Most of what Christians quote or understand by soul-power or kundalini comes from Hindu or New Age Literature (which is derived from Hindu source material). Given the source of this knowledge, we should completely discard all such notions!
When I was a young "teenager" Christian I read Watchman Nee's Spiritual man. It is these works of Watchman Nee that introduced concepts such as "soul-energy". Personally I place no credence in his assertion on soul-energy and could find no biblical foundation for this. I discarded his book through listening to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
Interestingly, at a much later date I read that Watchman Nee had attested to the value of Evan Robert's work on "War of the Saints" claiming this as the pioneer work in the modern Christian's knowledge on spiritual warfare. I find this interesting because I was led to discard this book too! Not out of personal bias, or out of ignorance of spiritual warfare but due to various assertions made in these works, which I prefer not to repeat here.
In fact I was appalled that Evan Roberts, a man of prayer hungry for Jesus, could participate for two years in writing this work. So, I searched around and discovered that Evan Roberts had himself disavowed his own book!
--------------------------
Even Derek Prince- a man whom I hold in high regard fell into the same trap, after which he publically recanted claiming "this was the worst mistake in my life!"
Be careful my friend about what you read on soul power and these things. Todd Bentley, Patricia King and their ilk do not use soul or kandilini power - they are directly manifesting the outworking of spirits. This is confirmed when we follow their writings. For instance Todd Bentley dedicates much time in his early ministry enthusing about his spiritual mentors such as the angel Emma and demanding that his audience believes in his angel Emma. How much time did he spend teaching the Gospel (repentance, justification, sanctification, salvation- Law and Grace!)- zero!
--------------
I repeat that no angel fallen or otherwise, no spirit has any power or "energy" or for that matter Authority other than that which has been given to them or "allowed to them". Read Luke 4_6,7 and if you are uncertain read Job chapters 1 and 2.
On our battle with spiritual forces of wickedness
--------------------------------------------------
Here you quote Ephesians 6- correctly. Our battle is against powers of wickedness in spiritual realms. Absolutely- those who are baptized in the Spirit discover this quickly! I am not sure what this had to do with my posting, I assume you missed my gist.
================
In terms of our ministry: we need to follow the model of our Lord, the Apostles and Paul, who ministered equally to all. I am always cautious about ministries directed to a particular spiritual problem- such as the occult etc.
Earlier I quoted Evan Roberts. There is little doubt that Evan Roberts was a man of prayer- and likewise there is substantial evidence that the Welsh Revival was a working of the Holy Spirit. This I judge purely on the change brought to lives- firstly conviction by the Spirit and then repentance and sincere professions an confessions of Jesus- in short changed lives that reflect the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
However, Evan Roberts, became interested and excessively so in spiritual warfare- with tragic results. After reading his works I am not surprised at these results.
Put on the Full Armor of God - but in waging war read Jude and read 2 Peter. Our spiritual warfare must be conducted with circumspection- crush the serpents and scorpions that fall on your path- don't beat the bulrushes!
---------------
Isabeau- I am not in any way criticizing your ministry or its focus- just a cautionary on spiritual warfare using examples from well attested ministries that have gone astray.
May the Lord give you power in your witness!
re Too the Gospel
Peer,
Thank you so much for taking the time you did to write...I appreciate it more than you know.
I am familiar with War on the Saints...and I am also not in agreement with some of what was written, I do believe they missed the mark in some passages. But there are some good points, and I would agree with a good deal of it. But that is another study, as you said yourself.
I believe the way I understand soul power is that it is really the "will" of the individual. It is the flesh. As I have read the "Latent Power of the Soul" by Watchman Nee, (just recently actually) I believe where he refers to the power of the soul can be equated with the human will. (Gen. 3:5 satan told Eve they would be like God) He states that to practice such always opens the door to evil spirits, which I concur. We cannot "cast out the flesh" as in casting out a demonic spirit...we can bring it under subjection of the Holy Spirit, and then be "transformed by the renewing of our mind."
Romans 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
I practiced meditation years ago, and had many of those "god within" experiences, with all the energy and light etc, but I had enough scripture in me to never believe that "I was god" as the "self realization" proponents teach. But these experiences were for the most part not involving any sort of invocation, as in a mantra. I most certainly opened myself up to the fallen spirit realm. When the Lord began to change me through His Word, all doors to that were closed.
I will read what you wrote again carefully, and I do appreciate your input and time. I want to put my new-age experiences into a book, there is so much to tell. I also want to be correct in my perception, so that I can minister to others. Bill Johnson, the pastor from CA who is mentoring Todd Bentley, describes in his book "When Heaven Invades Earth" his own electrifying experience...he says in the middle of the night, God came in and answered his prayer for more of Him.
"Unexplainable power began to pulsate through my body, seemingly just shy of electrocution. It was as though I had been plugged into a wall socket with a thousand volts of electricity flowing through my body." He said his arms and legs shot out in silent explosions, as if something was being released through his hands and feet, and the more he tried to stop it the worse it got. He said "it was raw power...it was God. (IT was God??? or really? not the God I serve...)
What he describes is identical to what I experienced, and is what God shut the door on when I was born again!
Well this goes into a lengthy subject...but you can see why I need to write the book...
www.lionsdoor@aol.com
Psalm 119:104 Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way...105 Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.