Confession of sin, is it for Christians?

NOTE FROM SITE AUTHOR: Just about everything written by Tropical_Guy is dangerous heresy and what you find below is one of the worst and most spiritually DANGEROUS. I may decide to delete this article. Its a fine line sometimes between allowing others to contribute and creating a platform for dangerous heresies to spread. I am putting in a few comments here to show why I disagree. I haven’t the time right now to address everything.

This is a great article by James Owen on the truth behind 1 jn 1:9 and how it is not written to believers.

http://www. truthorchains. com/Confession/Resources/Confession2.pdf
[MF: No free links for stuff I don’t like]

Confession of Sin
The purpose of this study is to set people free. This is God’s goal for those who
are lost and bound by sin and Satan. This is also His purpose for His children,
those who have been reconciled to Him through faith in His Son, Jesus Christ, but
who have fallen under some legal system that has destroyed their joy and peace.

[MF The Kind of freedom Christ came to give is the one that DESTROYS the power of sin in the believers life. SIN will destroy JOY and PEACE. The promise of justification without repentance is a lie.]

There is no greater illustration of the need for freedom than Christ’s statement
found in John 8:32, 36. Jesus said, “then you shall know the truth, and the truth
will set you free,” and “so if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”

[MF – Look at this Scripture in context and you will see it flies in the face of everything this author is about to say. Two of the verses omitted, verses 34 and 35 state

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.
Joh 8:35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever.

Jesus is wanting people to stop committing sin. Being free indeed is different to having a theology that says you are free.]

It is
truth that the Lord Jesus uses to set a person free. Thus, it is error that places
people under bondage. Jesus also said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6). If the need is truth to
break the bonds that are enslaving people, and Jesus Christ is the truth, then the
need is Jesus Christ, no less and no more. This is why Paul wrote “And ye are
complete in Him (Jesus), which is the head of all principality and power”
(Colossians 2:10, emphasis added).

[MF: these kind of statements describe a legal position which is true for those who are BEING SANCTIFIED – see Hebrews 10:14 Heb 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. ]
It is our conviction that the teaching regarding the need to confess one’s sin to
God for the purpose of forgiveness, restoration, cleansing, or in order to restore
ones fellowship with God is an error. This error keeps believers in Christ under
bondage and denies the very grace of God and the salvation that God has
provided for the lost through His grace. This teaching enslaves people and dooms
them to a lifetime of a legalistic ritual of dredging up past sins and remembering
recent sins. The error is the confession of those sins for the purpose of gaining
forgiveness and reinstatement into fellowship with God. Besides promoting a
never-ending emphasis on self-examination which leads to discouragement and
self-centeredness, it can also cause Christians who are weak in the faith to doubt
their salvation. While it is not the same as the Catholic teaching regarding
confession of sin, it is still a denial of the doctrine of salvation found in God’s
Word. Catholic doctrine denies the finished work of Christ, teaching that a part of
the work of redemption is left to us. Confession of ones sins to a priest is one of
the means of grace and is absolutely required for the expiation of ones sins.
Although the confession of sins as it is taught in many protestant churches is to
God alone, it is taught as a necessity for the purpose of forgiveness from sins and
a restoration of fellowship with God. It is equally as false as the Catholic doctrine
of confession of sin to a priest. It promotes the work of man for that which only
Christ can do. In truth, it promotes the work of man which Christ has already
accomplished! Christ alone provides an eternal relationship with God based on
the free pardon of all our sins.
It seems clear to me that the reason for this error is twofold:
(1) It is a failure to interpret 1 John 1:9, upon which this teaching is based, in light
of its context.
(2) It is a flawed understanding of the complete work accomplished by Christ for
our salvation.
I know very well how important it is to carefully interpret a passage within the
context of the surrounding verses. I know that the full understanding of God’s
amazing salvation will protect the student of the Scriptures from false conclusions
based upon one passage of scripture, or, in this case, one verse of scripture. In
the past I too taught Confession Of Sin in the traditional way. I also know how
damaging it can be. A personal illustration will help to underscore the need to
“rightly divide the word of truth.”

Years ago a lady in our church made a statement that astounded me. She said
that she had stopped confessing her sins to God. It had become a burden that
was just too much for her to bear any longer. I was shocked and concerned for her
because I felt that she was playing rather loose with the clear injunction of
scripture which, I believed, instructed the child of God to confess his sins. After all,
was that not what 1 John 1:9 clearly commanded us to do? And wasn’t that what
so many of the well-known preachers and teachers of the Word of God taught?
Was it not necessary to do so in order to be forgiven and reinstated into God’s
fellowship? It was all so clear to me, why couldn’t she see it? My eldest son added
to my consternation when he too admitted that he had stopped confessing his
sins. According to him his Christian life never changed whether he confessed his
sins or not. This was too much. I determined that I would teach on the subject the
next Sunday. I simply had to do something in order to get these sheep back into
the fold and to keep others from defecting from this truth.
The next week of study did not go well. For the first time, I actually studied the
context of 1 John 1:9. I found some real problems for which I had no answers.
Problem number one was the subject of confession of sin itself. It was true that in
the Old Testament God instructed His people to confess their sins. With that
confession there was always the necessity to bring an offering to the priest so that
the confession would be accepted by God. But in the New Testament only 1 John
1:9 seemed to teach the believer to repeatedly confess his sins in order to be
forgiven. My problem was obvious; if the confession of sins was so very important,
why was there only one verse in the New Testament that taught it?
The second problem dealt with the forgiveness of sins. This had seemed to be at
best a paradox in the Bible. After all, I had taught what I saw to be so clear in the
Scriptures, that the believer, in Christ, was fully forgiven of all his sins (Colossians
2:13). Yet 1 John 1:9 seemed to teach that one was only forgiven as a Christian
when he confessed his sins. How could both teachings be true? The inconsistency
was too obvious for me to ignore any longer. But I had no clue how to resolve the
dilemma. I always had a fear that someone would ask me why they should
confess their sins if they were already forgiven from those sins. The disturbing fact
is that no one ever did.
At the end of a week of study I had a stack of notes but was no closer to
understanding 1 John 1:9 and confession of sin than when I started. Then, in utter
defeat, I looked to the Lord in prayer and said, “Lord, I do not know how to
interpret this passage, but You said ‘If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask
God, Who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him’,
and I need Your wisdom right now.” I went back to study the passage again, and in
a few minutes the Lord in His faithfulness began to unravel the mystery. As a
result of teaching this passage as it was meant to be understood, people have
been set free. As it is presented again, I trust that others will be released from a
bondage that God never intended for His children to be under. May you also
discover much more of God’s amazing grace and freedom in Christ

The immediate context upon which an understanding of the popular doctrine on
the confession of sin rests is 1 John 1:1-10; 2:1,2. A careful study of these verses
will give us the message that the Holy Spirit wants to convey. As we will see it is a
far different message from the one that is being taught.
An eyewitness testimony about Jesus Christ – 1 John 1:1, 2
John, in these verses, proves beyond any doubt that Jesus Christ was a real person, not a
phantom as some false teachers (probably Gnostics) were teaching. John’s first-hand
account of Christ’s life before and after the resurrection is crucial to the message of this
epistle. If Jesus was less than genuine, then the testimony of 1 John (indeed all of the
New Testament) is a fraud. But John, the last living eyewitness among the apostles,
confirms the genuineness of Jesus Christ, His person, and His work.
The immediate purposes of the epistle – 1 John 1:3, 4
In order to appreciate the two purposes for the writing of 1 John chapter 1, it is important
to first understand the overall purpose of the epistle. That purpose is found in 1 John 5:13
which says, “I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that
you may know that you have eternal life.” Because of false teachers the apostle John
wrote the epistle for the saints to understand what constitutes genuine salvation, who has
it, and who does not.
These “seducers” (1 John 2:26, KJV) apparently not only taught that Jesus had not been a
real person with flesh and blood, but also that salvation had no identifying and
distinguishing features about it. Therefore, throughout the epistle, John presents the
evidence that certain traits do identify one as having an eternal relationship with God the
Father and with Jesus Christ, God’s Son. Furthermore, it proves that those who have this
relationship with the Father and the Son also have a relationship with those who follow
The issue of fellowship – 1 John 1:3
In verse 3, John states that he wants his readers to have the same fellowship with the
Father and the Son that he and the other apostles have. In order to understand what John
means we must examine the Biblical meaning of fellowship, especially with God.
The word fellowship means joint-participation. It is used in two separate ways in the
New Testament:
(1) Fellowship between people. It is the result of a common bond and for a common
purpose. The context determines whether the purpose is good or evil and whether it is
permanent or temporary. (See Acts 2:42-46; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18; 1 John 2:19.)
(2) Fellowship with God. The use of this word regarding a relationship between a believer
and God is that it is eternal, changeless, and for the believer’s good. Fellowship with God
is found only four times in the New Testament; three times in this chapter and once in 1
Corinthians 1:9. It is in 1 Corinthians 1:9, when taken in its context, that we discover what
the New Testament teaches about the believer’s fellowship with God.
In 1 Corinthians 1:2-8 Paul identifies those to whom he is writing as having an eternal
relationship with God. He does so in the following ways:
Verse 2 – They are identified as sanctified in Jesus Christ, called to be holy, and those who
have called upon the name of the Lord Jesus (Romans10:12-13).
Verse 6 – They gave testimony that they had believed the message Paul had preached.
Verse 7 – They gave evidence of having received spiritual gifts, and they were eagerly
awaiting the return of the Lord.
Verse 8 – Paul’s assurance that they were believers is underscored when he assures them
that they will be blameless “on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Verse 9 – Paul reminds them that all these things are true of them and will be true because God had called them into fellowship with His Son. This must mean therefore that
fellowship with God is an eternal relationship. And, because “the gifts and callings of God
are without repentance” (Romans 11:29), Paul’s statements at the beginning of this epistle
are to encourage the saints that their salvation is secure. This eternal relationship with
God guarantees it.
The popular notion that one loses his fellowship with God when he sins is simply not
supported by the Scriptures. Broken fellowship with God is impossible for the one who is
“in Christ.” But then, that only makes sense when one considers all of the scriptures and
uses the words in scripture as the Holy Spirit uses them. Thus, the child of God does not
bounce in and out of fellowship with God. The salvation that Jesus provides is far more
wonderful than that.
Obviously, what the teachers of confession of sin are referring to is a loss of present
communion with the Lord. But according to those who teach confession of sin for
fellowship, the reason for the child of God to confess his sins is in order to restore the
sinning saint to the fellowship he enjoyed before he sinned. And they conclude that
restoration can only come about if their sins are forgiven. But now we see that broken
fellowship is impossible between the believer and God.

One would have to lose his
salvation for that to happen and that is impossible.

[MF – WRONG AGAIN AND DANGEROUS, for reasons documented elsewhere on this site]
It is vital that we use Biblical words accurately, and this is not an example of the proper
use of the word fellowship.
There are those who believe that one can lose his salvation and, because they base that
teaching on 1 John 1:9, it shows the danger of the present-day popular interpretation of
that verse. If one could lose his salvation then the accepted teaching regarding the loss of
fellowship would support that belief. If, when I fail to confess my sins, I am not forgiven
and therefore not in fellowship with God, then I would be lost. This fact underscores the
importance of this subject and the need to get it right.
The basis for John’s joy – 1 John 1:4
The joy of John and those with him is another reason John is writing the epistle. Without
an agreement between saints regarding the basic truths of salvation, it is impossible to
have a close and mature spiritual relationship with one another. The joy of the child of God
is increased greatly when he sees other saved brothers and sisters come to the place of
understanding God’s grace.

Understanding God’s grace results in close spiritual
fellowship. Fellowship that is so precious to God’s children.
What a different understanding we have of 1 John 1:4 when we clear up the first error
regarding fellowship with God. Fellowship with God, we find, is not on a human level, but
is used here of a relationship that perfectly resembles one who is born into a family. We
have been erroneously taught that sin in the life destroys our fellowship with God, and only
confession of sin restores that relationship. Now we see that God’s Word does not refer to
daily communion with God, but rather, an eternal relationship. It describes God’s work of
joining the sinner, who is now identified as a believer in Christ, to God forever. Gone is the
fear of not being in fellowship with God because of some forgotten sin that was not
confessed. It is no longer seen as a relationship that depends upon whether we keep
“short accounts with God”, but rather on what God did when He placed us in Christ
forever. This will have further implications as we consider the next error in the current
teaching on confession of sin
The fundamental truth – 1 John 1:5

“This is the message we have heard from Him and declare to you: God is light; in Him
there is no darkness at all.”
This is the key verse of 1 John. The fact that God is light means that He is utter holiness,
righteousness, and purity. There is no darkness at all in Him. That is to say, no sin, no
unrighteousness, and no taint whatsoever. There is no grey area with God. Verses 6-10
are measured by the standard presented in verse 5: God’s righteousness and holiness.

Biblical context: contrastive verses
Verses 6-10 are contrastive verses. Verses 6 & 7 are contrasts, while verses 8 & 10 are
contrasted with verse 9. These are all descriptive verses. They do not command anyone to
do anything, but rather, describe the condition of a person if certain things are true of him.
This is a very important truth to keep in mind if we are going to understand the message
taught in these verses.
The truth about light and darkness
In response to 1 John 1:5 which tells us God is light and in Him is NO DARKNESS, 1 John
1:6, 7 deals with light and darkness in a person’s life and how that identifies him. This, like
the use of the word fellowship, is critical to the proper interpretation of this passage. As we
shall see, the proper understanding of the teaching of light and darkness in the New
Testament will establish a very important truth, namely, that the believer always walks in
the light and never walks in darkness. Contrariwise, the unbeliever never walks in the light
but always walks in darkness. Although the believer may do the deeds of darkness, he is
still in the light. His position in the light never changes. Because he is in Christ Who is light
(John 8:12; Colossians 1:12-13), he will never walk in darkness. It is amazing that so
many have taught that, since the epistle was written to believers, verses 6, 8, and 10 are
describing the child of God and therefore prove that he walks in darkness when he sins.
On this basis they find in this chapter the instruction to confess ones sins before they can
walk in the light again. This misunderstanding could easily have been avoided had they
searched the New Testament regarding the teaching of the believer and his relationship to
light and darkness, something I failed to do for years.
Below are some of the basic scriptures that form the teaching regarding light and
“When Jesus spoke again to the people, He said, I am the light of the world, whoever
follows Me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12
“But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to
God, that you may declare the praises of Him Who called you out darkness into His
wonderful light.” 1 Peter 2:9
“But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You
are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or the
darkness.” 1 Thessalonians 5:4-5
“Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness
have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there
between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? “ 2
Corinthians 6:14-15
“For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light
(for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth).“ Ephesians 5:8
The truth is obvious:
When one believes in Christ he receives Christ’s life which is light. He is placed into the
body of Christ. Because Christ is light, the believer, having been baptized into Christ, is
always in the light. So to say that a child of God can ever be in darkness denies the truth
that Christ is light.
Biblical context: conditional statements
Each of the last five verses in 1 John 1 begins with the words “if we.” In the Greek these
are called third class conditional statements. In effect the statement means: “if we, and we
may or may not.” In other words, the things about which John is writing may or may not
apply to the particular reader. The apparent reason for this is that among the true believers
there were those who were not genuine children of God. What applied to the unbeliever in
verse 6 would not apply to the believer. The opposite would be true in verse 7 and so on.
Many have erroneously concluded that the wording proves that everything that is said in these verses refers to true believers. As we have seen and will continue to see this cannot
possibly be true. The Apostle John is using a literary device. He does so because some
were unsaved among the believers (1 John 2:19, 26; 4:1), while others were undecided
about what constitutes salvation. Hypothetical propositions are presented for each person
to decide objectively whether he is saved or not. The writer to the Hebrews uses this same
device in Hebrews 3:7-14 and 10:22-31.
The Biblical context is descriptive, not prescriptive
As we have noted, the only scripture used to teach confession of sin to God in the New
Testament is in 1 John 1: 9, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive
us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.“ By no measure can this verse be used
to prescribe a remedy for the sin of the believer because it is not an imperative in the
Greek and is not so even in the English. God is not commanding a person to do
something. Rather, he is describing the actions of someone who comes to the conclusion
that he is a sinner and is guilty as charged by God. This teaching is far different from what
we have been taught and led to believe. 1 John 1:9 addresses the unsaved person who
finally agrees with God about his sin and then places trust in Christ as his sin bearer.
The truth about the context
Having established the foundational truth that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all,
John presents two general categories of people. Those who walk in darkness and are
unsaved (verse 6), and those who walk in the light and are saved (verse 7). A closer
examination of these two verses establishes the basic interpretation of them.
In verse 6 we see that no matter what a person may say, if he is walking in darkness he
does not have an eternal relationship with God through faith in Jesus Christ.
Walking in Darkness – The Characteristics
The book of 1 John gives us some descriptive traits of one who is walking in darkness:
1.He gives no evidence of loving God – 4:20.
2.He does not love the brothers in Christ – 4:20; 2:9,11.
3.He does not keep Christ’s commandments – 2:29; 5:2-3.
4.He loves the world – 2:15.
5.He deserts the brothers – 2:19, 24; 3:14; 4:20.
6.He denies the Son – 2:22-23.
7.He sins as he did before – 3:8,10.
8.He denies that Jesus had a human body – 4:3.
9.He does not believe the record that God gave of His Son – 5:10-12.
Conclusion – These are the traits of an unsaved person – one who is walking in darkness.
In verse 7 we see the continual work of the blood of Christ. The ones who “walk in the
light”, like the ones walking in darkness, will have certain distinguishing characteristics
about their lives:
1.They will carry out the commands of Christ – 2:3, 5, 6.
2.They will love the brothers (fellow believers) – 2:9, 11.
3.They will not love the world for the love of the Father is in them – 2:15; 4:7, 16,
4.They will not desert the brothers – 2:19; 3:14; 4:7.
5.They will continue to believe what they started out believing – 2:24.
6.They will keep themselves pure – 3:2-3.
7.They will not sin as they used to – 3:9.
8.They will have compassion on the brothers – 3:16, 19.

9.They believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh – 4:2.
10.They believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God – 4:15.
Conclusion – These are the traits of saved people, the ones who are walking in the light,
because they are in the Light eternally. That fact means that when they sin they are being
cleansed of that sin automatically. That cleansing, just like the cleansing at the point of
salvation, takes place apart from any self-works or merit on their part.
Note – The truth that the believer is always being cleansed from sin finds its authority from
the Greek text. 1 John 1:7 states: “and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all
sin.” The word purifies (cleanses in the King James Version) conveys the idea in the Greek
of a work that begins at a point in time and continues without stopping. Thus the believer
never experiences a time, day or night, when he is not being cleansed from all sin. The
cleansing work of Christ never depends on, or waits on, something that the sinning saint is
required to do. Nor does sin cause the saints fellowship to be broken with God. In other
words, God is not waiting to restore fellowship, because it was never broken to begin with.
The Implication of Constant Cleansing
This glorious truth illuminates the greatness of God’s plan of salvation. in his salvation but
to believe in Jesus, so the believer has no part in remaining forgiven and justified. His
position is always a child of God who is righteous and free from sin—all sin (Hebrews 10:
14; Colossians 1:22-22).
Verse 8 – The Unsaved Person’s Resistance to The Truth
This verse is a description of an unsaved person. He does not believe that he is a sinner.
He does not believe he is guilty of sin. He is deceived and denies the truth about his
condition. Not having Christ, this person does not have the truth. The moment a person
believes the truth about himself he turns to Christ by faith and is saved.
Now, as one can see, this verse could not be a description of a saved person. In context
we can clearly see that verse 6 describes an unsaved person, verse 7 describes a saved
person, and verse 8 describes an unsaved person. Each verse beginning with verse 6
alternates in its description between an unsaved and a saved person
Verse 9 – The Only Remedy For Forgiveness
This verse, to be consistent with the flow of the text, should refer to a saved person, and it
does. But it also shows the reason he is saved. It shows the absolute necessity for an
unbeliever to come to the acknowledgment that he is a sinner and is guilty of sin. In fact,
John says the moment a person acknowledges his sin, he is forgiven and cleansed from
all unrighteousness.
Is This The Plan Of Salvation?
Although many Christians have used this verse in evangelism, many others object to its
use for that purpose because it does not contain the word believe. And, of course, faith is
absolutely essential to the salvation of anyone.
While we do not believe that John was using this verse to lead people to Christ, it can
certainly be used for that purpose. However, John is actually showing the absolute
necessity of one coming to the realization that he is a sinner before he can ever be
forgiven and cleansed of sin. So this verse is instructive, not evangelistic. As we examine
this verse more closely the truth found here becomes clear.
“If we confess our sins” – The word confess in the Greek means to say the same thing; to
agree with; to recognize. It does not instruct us to confess or agree with anyone in
particular concerning our guilt of sin. This idea, I believe, is a carry-over from the Roman
Catholic Church doctrine. The Reformers, for all the good that they did in leading people
out of the bondage of a false system of salvation, never fully divorced themselves from all
of the Catholic teachings. In my opinion, the word “confess”, has done more damage in the
Church of Jesus Christ than any other single word in the Bible. This is not to say that there
is any thing wrong with the word—there is not. But because of the false teaching that has been attached to the word confess, it is nearly impossible to get most people to consider a
different meaning.
Confess and Repent
If we can see this word in the light of repentance, it will help us to understand this verse.
Repentance means a change of mind. It does not refer to a change of direction, or lifestyle
as many have taught. But the idea of a change of mind is crucial to each person if he
would have his sins forgiven and become a reconciled child of God.
The injunction to repent is used in the gospel message in a number of places in Acts. In
fact, it is used in place of believe in several verses:
“Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out.” Acts 3:19
“In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now He commands all people
everywhere to repent.” Acts 17:30
“Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness
of your sins.” Acts 2:38
“I preached that they should repent and turn to God.” Acts 26:20
What did these people who heard the gospel have to change their minds about? They had
to change their minds about their spiritual condition. First of all, they had to be convinced
that they were sinners. Paul, in Romans chapters 3 and 7, establishes the reason for the
Law. It was to convict and convince people that they are sinners and that sin is
exceedingly sinful (Romans 7:13). In 1 Timothy 1:8-11, Paul shows that the Law was made
for the unsaved person. In Galatians 3:23-24, Paul proves that the Law was a
schoolmaster to bring us to Christ.
Now, after the convicting work of the Law was accomplished and the sinner changed his
mind and saw himself as he really was, a sinner, and agreed with God (confessed), then
he would turn to Christ Who was his only hope for salvation. Therefore, confession, or
agreeing with God about our sins, was the evidence of a change of mind or repentance. It
was at this time that the person would believe in Jesus as his sin-bearer.
All of this happens at the same time. When one changes his mind about being a sinner he
has confessed or agreed with God. But that only happens to those who then trust Christ as
saviour; one is inextricably linked to the other.
“He is faithful” – 1 John 1:9
The Lord never fails to forgive anyone who comes to Him through His Son. “All that the
Father gives Me will come to Me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away” (John
6:37). After all, this was the whole purpose of His salvation plan.
“And just to forgive” – 1 John 1:9
The word just means righteous. Because of His holiness, God could not forgive sin without
judging it, or else He would offend His righteousness. If, however, He judged the sinner,
the sinner would be lost forever. Thus, the perfect lamb of God died in our place. He was
judged for our sins. He became sin for the world and when He died, the world’s sins were
judged and God could remain righteous when He forgave a person’s sins. What a plan!
“And to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” – 1 John 1:9
Sin forgiven must also be sin cleansed. And this is the first cleansing which happens the
moment we agree with God about our sins and believe in Christ.
Note that this cleansing is from all “unrighteousness.” In verse 7, however, we note that
the believer is continually being cleansed from all “sin.” Why the difference? The reason is
that a believer has been made righteous and can never be charged with unrighteousness.
Only the unsaved are unrighteous, having not been made righteous by God at the point of salvation. Therefore the sins of those who are saved are never classified as
unrighteousness. That charge is reserved for the unsaved alone.
The cleansing of the believer from all unrighteousness is a once-for-all cleansing. Once he
believes in the Lord Jesus he is made righteous and can never again be charged with
unrighteousness. See Colossians 1:21-22.
Again it must be remembered that once the sinner comes to Christ he not only receives
forgiveness and initial cleansing from all unrighteousness, but now his sins are continually
being cleansed, automatically, by the blood of Christ. See 1 John 1:7.
The Hardened Heart Of Unbelief – 1 John 1:10
This verse, like verses 6 and 8, refers to an unbeliever. The unbeliever is described as one
who insists that he has not sinned. The unbeliever denies that he is a sinner and declares
that God is a liar. God’s Word could not possibly be in him. This also means that the truth
is not in him. Without the truth abiding in him he cannot possibly see himself as he really is
or see the living God as He is. 1 John 5:10 states, “Anyone who believes in the Son of
God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out
to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about His Son.”
Furthermore, in John 5:38 we read, “Nor does His word dwell in you, for you do not believe
the One He sent.”
Until they repent (change their minds) and confess (acknowledge the truth) about being a
sinner, they will never be saved and are lost eternally.
Notice that “if we say” is the way each verse begins when describing the unsaved. The
point we need to understand is that just because a person says something is true does not
make it true! The truth must be validated by believing the truth and acting upon it.
The Ongoing Work Of Christ For Believers – 1 John 2:1-2
In order to understand the context of 1 John 1:9, it is necessary to include the first two
verses of 1 John chapter 2.
Verse 1 – Just because the apostle John has acknowledged that the child of God does sin
(1:7), does not mean he is now free to live the way he chooses. John hastens to exhort the
believer not to sin. The Bible never excuses sin or takes it lightly. But if the believer does
sin, he has an advocate (a representative before God the Father), Jesus Christ.
The end of 1 John 2:1 declares Christ as “The Righteous.” This title shows why He is
qualified to be our advocate. Who else could possibly represent God’s children when they
sin? Only God’s Son, the sinless One, Whose blood was shed for the sins of the whole
world, is qualified.
The fact that Jesus’ advocacy is successful is proven by the cleansing work in the child of
God’s life. What a thought!
Imagine a salvation so complete that at the moment of salvation it begins to cleanse the
sinner and never stops until the saint is taken home to be with the Lord! And the work is
automatic and continuous. Only God in His grace could devise such a plan.
Verse 2 – “propitiation” means a satisfaction. Jesus’ death perfectly satisfied God’s
demand for a once-for-all sacrifice for sin. He “became sin for us” (2 Corinthians 5:21).
And it was for all, once-for-all.
Nothing is left for the believer to do. It has all been done. It is indeed “finished”, just as
Jesus said on the cross. (John 19:30)
Our study of this passage that has been so misunderstood shows that John is describing
both the saved and the unsaved. These are descriptive, not prescriptive verses. In other
words, there is no command to do anything in any of these verses including verse 9.
The gauge for salvation is whether one is in the light or in the darkness. The moment one
receives Christ as his saviour, he is in the light. And that fact, walking in the light, never changes regardless of the state of his spiritual walk. He may do the deeds of darkness, but
he can never again walk in darkness. This is what makes sin so out of place and out of
character in a believer’s life.
The wonder of our salvation is that we are continually being cleansed (1:7). Since that is
true, it destroys the argument that sin in the believer’s life must be confessed in order to
be cleansed. In other words, if we are continually being cleansed, why would we seek
forgiveness by confessing our sins? If a believer is cleansed from all unrighteousness then
he must be forgiven. God would not need to cleanse a person who was already fully
cleansed by the blood of Christ.
But when we understand that verses 6, 8, and 10 identify a person who is unsaved and is
still in need of Christ’s redemptive work, verse 9 then becomes the answer to that need.
Since the unsaved person refuses to believe God’s assessment, that he is a sinner, the
truth declared in verse 9 becomes the key to God’s work for forgiveness and cleansing.
Indeed, only those who genuinely see themselves as God sees them will believe in the
Lord Jesus as their saviour. The unsaved never genuinely and knowingly acknowledge
their sin, until the time that they also trust the Sinbearer—Jesus Christ. And it is His
sacrifice and His alone that provides forgiveness for anyone.
The fact that Jesus died for all means that all are eligible for salvation. The key to
“believing faith” for salvation from the penalty of sin is first coming to the place of seeing
our bankrupt state before God. That person, is the only one God saves. He always saves
the one who acknowledges his sinful condition and believes in Jesus Christ as the
Often people get very upset when they hear that the child of God does not have to confess
his sins. Some respond, “I suppose then a Christian can go out and live as he pleases?“
Well, as a matter of fact, he can. The Father has given the child of God the freedom to
make choices, and his choices can be wrong. And beside that, who of us have not lived as
we pleased at times? The epistles certainly prove that the apostles had to deal with this
problem in the early church. How they dealt with it is instructive.
Paul had his hands full with the Corinthians. Among other things, they were guilty of
fornication. In 1 Corinthians 6:9-20, he addresses the problem. In these verses he shows
just how uncharacteristic sin is for the one who had been washed, sanctified, and justified
“in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” He exhorts them to flee
fornication (verse 18) because their bodies were the temple of the Holy Spirit and they
were no longer their own. Paul reminds them that they had been bought with a price (the
precious blood of Christ) and therefore were to glorify God in their bodies (verses 19-20).
In the midst of this teaching, Paul acknowledges that all things are “lawful unto me” (KJV)
or within my power, but not all things are “ expedient “(KJV) or profitable. How true this is,
not only because the word of God states it, but because the experience of every child of
God demonstrates it. This is why most of the New Testament epistles are corrective. For
instance, in Romans 6:12, Paul says, “Let not sin….reign in your mortal bodies.” The thrust
of this verse in the Greek is to stop allowing sin to reign in your body. This was actually
happening among the saints in Rome. Paul follows this up in verse 13 by saying literally,
“yielding your members as instruments of unrighteousness.” They could and they were
actually yielding their bodies to unrighteousness. But they were to be doing just the
opposite in light of their exalted position in Christ.
Does this excuse a believer who engages in sin? Absolutely not! But the word of God
anticipates that he will, and has made provision for all sin by continually cleansing him.
God has given the believer the resources to NOT SIN. Two passages are proof of this
wonderful fact:
1.God always makes a way of escape from temptation – 1 Corinthians 10:13
“No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; He will
not let you be tempted beyond you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.”
2.We will not sin when the Holy Spirit is in control – Galatians 5:16
“So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature (flesh).”
So, what is the answer to sin in our lives? Is it to confess that sin to God? What good will
that do? He has already forgiven you of the sin and cleansed you. Will confession do any
more for the saint than God has already done? No! It may make you feel good, but there is
no scripture that instructs you to do anything in order to feel good.
No, the need is repentance, a change of mind regarding ones sin and a turning away from
that sin. That will be followed at the same time by a turning to the Spirit who will lead the
saint in paths of righteousness. Of course when my sin hurts another person, I should
promptly admit it to the person I’ve hurt and ask his forgiveness. The Bible does teach that
kind of confession (Matthew 18:15-17; James 5:16).
The Lord saved us to bring forth righteousness (1 Peter 1:15-16). It was sin that kept us
from glorifying God (Romans 3:23). For this reason the heavenly Father is always
chastening (child-training) His sons and daughters so that they might bring forth
righteousness (Hebrews 12: 5-11).
No, the child of God may grieve over his sins and kick himself for being such a jerk; he
may even discuss his sin with the Heavenly Father and tell Him he is sorry (what child of
God has not done that?), but he is never instructed to do so, and his position before God
never changes whether he does these things or not. God’s work goes on in our lives
regardless of our response. That is grace, and that is God’s amazing salvation. And it is
this grace that instructs us regarding our conduct.
Titus 2:11-14 states:
“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say
No to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives
in this present age. While we wait for the blessed hope the glorious appearing of our great
God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness
and to purify for Himself a people that are His very own, eager to do what is good.”
Will you enter into God’s marvelous grace and into a more abundant life? A life that is truly
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  1. jesseedavis says:

    Long story short, I have a friend who hates being around his wife and kids. He would rather be at an AA meeting and with a girl he has been with for a few months. He has been seeking God’s will for the matter and is confused. He is told from those in AA to forget love and also to just forget all women. He has been told to reconcile with his wife at all costs from my dad and I. God has even provided him a way to do that.

    He has told me a few times that he doesn’t see it as being God’s will to be home with his family if he isn’t happy. He just talked to another Christian that told him that God would NOT put him in a place where he isn’t happy.

    Would God ever put us in a place where we aren’t happy?

    I know that you guys don’t know everything about his situation, but I thought maybe you could answer that according to your own experiences.

    • God is more interested in our joy than our happiness. (Joy is eternal, happiness is temporary) That is my first thought on it.

    • He has told me a few times that he doesn’t see it as being God’s will to be home with his family if he isn’t happy. He just talked to another Christian that told him that God would NOT put him in a place where he isn’t happy.

      Would God ever put us in a place where we aren’t happy?

      Jessee, I suspect your friend will seek out the counsel that he wants to hear and follow it, but as a friend, here are some things that come to mind.

      I was married to a woman who became chronically ill to the point of being home-bound and unable to leave the house. We moved to another place and she had to live in a 9′ by 10′ metal shed. We went homeless a couple weeks when the Land Lady painted outside her window she used for ventilation and when the road crew oiled the road. Was it fun? No. Was I happy. Not in the hedonistic sense of the word. Was that where I was supposed to be? Yes. Do I regret divorcing her and leaving her behind in her tears? No.

      That last question and answer was a trick 🙂 I do not regret divorcing her because I did not divorce her or leave her. I had a cross road early on. Should I pursue my own life or should I honor my wedding VOWS. If I would not keep my vow to remain true to my wife, how could I expect my husband Jesus, to remain true to His vow to me? I chose faithfulness and six and a half years later, with no hope in sight, Jesus totally healed my wife of that condition. You can read about it at

      It is a JOKE to say “God would not put you in a place where you are not happy.” It is an EVIL joke. How happy was Joseph in the pit? How happy was Joseph being manhandled and laughed at by human traffickers? How happy was Joseph in prison? Did God put him there? YES. And it is God who delivers. He did it for Joseph and he did it for me. I am a much happier man today than if I had left and become a shell of a man seeking surface pleasure. I have four beautiful children, when we had been barren for 15 years. God provided for my family and I trust him for it now. They are his children first.

      Happiness is a choice we make. Your friend has chosen to value the valueless and to discard those who need his love and support the most. It is his choice to put on the mind of Christ and be happy about his honored role as a father and husband, or to seek after his own vain pleasures. Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. He needs to invest in his family and cut off all ties with that woman who he has committed adultery with in his heart, if not his flesh (which will surely follow).

      Ask your friend if it is God’s will that your friend inflict a lifetime of inferiority complex, fear of abandonment, rejection, guilt, shame, on his children? Ask him if it is God’s will that he saddle his wife with their support. Ask him if it is fair that he leave his wife who has stood by him through and alcohol addiction? Ask him if he wants to go to heaven or hell when he dies? He better think eternal and live life for tomorrow, or he will die in his sin. Yes,”Christians” do go to hell. “Why call you me Lord, Lord and do not the things that I say?”

      Matthew 7:22-23 “MANY will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

      “Build your house upon a rock, not sand.” “Love your wive’s as Christ loved the church, laying down his life for it.” Oh, was Jesus happy on the cross? No. Did God put him there? What is Christianity about if it is not about dying to ourselves. This man has probably got a bitter, broken wife on his hands, and he can thank his sinful acts of the past for making it happen. It is time for him to ‘nut it up’ and be focused on the VERY HARD task of restoration. He will need God’s help, but that is the point. God will help him to bring God’s will for a healed family to pass…. When God does that, your friend will be fulfilled and happier than he could ever suspect. He will have self respect and purpose in his life for perhaps the first time. It will be worth it to him a hundred times over, whatever the cost.

      I hope that helps…

      Blessings and Peace,

      • jesseedavis says:

        Yea, that was the conclusion I came up with. I thought of the early Church as well as the Church in most foreign countries today and the persecution that is going on. The persecution of Jesus Himself!

        His marriage has been rough, very rough. He has been in gangs, used to sell drugs and guns, did drugs, drank, and just about anything you can imagine, he’s committed murder, he’s a very violent type of person, even still. He’s been married 4 times, with three different women, his wife now has been for 22 years. She has been praying for him for so long since she has come to the Lord. God has worked miracles in their lives, done things that no one in their right mind could explain away, and here recently he has come to faith in Jesus through AA. She gave up on it all a couple years before this happened and fell into the bar scene. She’s cheated on him, got into drugs, alcohol, homosexuality, adultery/fornication and she sings in the bars. They have been separated a couple of times now and this I believe is their third time. He lives in a different town in his own apartment and she lives with the kids in her own house.
        He is in a very tight spot as you can imagine, because well as he puts it, he’s a chief sinner. In his mind, he’s even worse than Saul/Paul. He needs a lot of prayer, but I think you can see why he is confused. He really has a heart for God and wants to do His will, but he is easily led astray and doesn’t want to let go of things he feel has done him good. God wants him out of AA and into ministry, but AA led him to the Lord and keeps him sober. AA also has his girlfriend, whom he doesn’t want to hurt. He tells me all the time how he doesn’t want to burn his bridges and end up being alone with no one. He even considers that God put his girlfriend into his life as a way out of his family. She treats him better, and is even leaning towards giving her life to Jesus. It is all a mess and I just pray that you guys can lift him up in prayer. My dad and I are, as far as we know, the only people in his life that are giving him Biblical sound instruction, without mixing cultural or selfish values into it.

      • The question was would God ever put us in a place where we are not happy? My answer? Your darn tootin’ he would!

        My experience? I was married to a woman who was sick…gravely sick for almost twenty years. (She was born with a nickel sized hole in her heart)

        Now she miraculously bore me three children, when the doctors said that was not possible…but she went through HUNDREDS of Doctor visits, hospitalizations, surgeries, medical tests and procedures, emergency room visits, and you name it. My bedroom was a pharmacy (With a plethora of prescription bottles lining the shelves.)

        She had an internal defibrillator installed..she had a wheelchair and a walker and a port-a-pot in our bedroom, which I got to clean for her…and her sickness cost me literally thousands and thousands of dollars, and made me BROKE and put me in the poorhouse for countless years of my life hauling her back and forth to hospitals, and doctors for 20 plus years.

        Was I happy?

        Simply, no. Not in your wildest dreams.

        I was stressed out of my mind, and MISERABLE. BUT, I was determined to keep my marriage vows.

        Then the worst happened. After years of this and thousands of gut wrenching prayers…she died, leaving me all alone with her memory and her debts.

        Was I happy then? EMPHATICALLY NO!!!! I mourned and wept, and grieved and cried for months.
        But you know what I learned? I discovered that all the time I was taking care of her, wheeling her around in her wheelchair, carting her back and forth to doctors…I had RESENTMENT in my heart. I didn’t see it until after she died and then God revealed it to me.

        Was I happy to learn that about me? NO, indeed no. I was horribly sad and disappointed in my self, and (sorry Tropical Guy) I confessed it as sin and repented of that attitude.

        So, did God put me in that marriage? I believe so. Yes it was my plan to marry her, (when we didn’t know how sick she was) but God had a MUCH BIGGER plan that encompassed my little human plan.

        Ultimately, He is ALWAYS many, many steps ahead of us! (You simply can NOT second guess God!)

        Was God looking out for my happiness all those twenty years? If he was, then he missed the boat entirely, because I was wretched and miserable. But he is much more interested in my spiritual growth and my ultimate joy….

        After she died, a wonderful woman came into my life and I fell in love with her and she with me. Was I happy then? Oh yes! I was loving someone and giving of myself 200% and I was quite happy. For the first time in twenty plus years, I was happy!

        Then this sweet woman broke up with me. Said she didn’t have “time” for my love. (how would that make YOU feel?) Leaving me ALONE AGAIN.

        My point? As I said earlier, happiness is ONLY TEMPORARY. Circumstances in life come and go and change like the breeze.

        So yes, God will indeed put us in situations where we are not happy.

        I can GUARANTEE it.

    • There is this weird misconception that God promises our faith walk to be a tip toe through the tulips. What does Jesus say? “In this world you will have trouble – but I have overcome the world.” In biblical terms, happiness does not equate with feeling good, being wealthy, having warm fuzzies, being successful. The word happiness – which by the way comes from the word “hap” meaning “chance,” is just that – based on circumstances. We are happy as long as things make us feel good. As long as there is gas in the car. As long as Burger King is just down the road. As long as I am getting enough sex. As long as . . . When we don’t feel good, happiness disappears and shows up again, when we cash our pay check or get a massage, or change bed partners. I think what we all want – more than happiness – is contentment, and contentment is a product of the heart and the mind, not a product of circumstance. Paul calls this sort of contentment, joy. And joy, says Paul, is a fruit of the Spirit. It is a by-product. It is the fruit and not the tree. In other words, real happiness – joy – comes to us as a result of service. It is a serendipity. It is one of those fabulous benefits of ministry we cannot explain – that when we focus on serving God and others, happiness, joy comes along in the parentheses. And it is lasting because it does not depend on circumstances that always change. Paul was alble to say, “I am content in whatever circumstance I am in.” Isn’t that what we all want?

      • jesseedavis says:

        Yes this is exactly it!! I believe that you can be happy no matter what is going on. I know this from experience. My dad can tell you about this, if he would, it is his lifestyle. I have been through prison, boot camp, and much more, but there was only one period where I was not happy or joyful, that was because I was disobedient to God and what He wanted me to do and not do. Even in boot camp, I got in trouble, because I was happy. I made other inmates happy, and even OFFICERS happy. Why? Because my happiness was from the Lord and couldn’t be taken away. This is the very same as contentment, joy, and yes, rejoicing. This can be done even in the worst of situations, but it is first in the heart and soul.

  2. Heb 4:9-13 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

    Paul, presumably, is writing to the church at Jerusalem. He is addressing saints. Notice the admonition is ongoing, “Let us therefore labor to enter into that rest.” What is he talking about? Entering into the Sabbath rest. Is it a day? No, I grew up keeping the Sabbath and know now, it is NOT the day.

    “He that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his,” means this:

    What are our ‘own’ works? The works of the flesh. SIN. We are called to a place of ceasing from sin. Is this accomplished upon conversion? NO. I know that because this passage is addressed to people who have already been converted – yet the need to cease from own labors continues.

    The Sabbath day points to 2 things: The Exodus command points back to creation with the explanation “for in six days God created the heavens and the earth and the seventh day He rested.” Used to read that as proof the Sabbath transcended the OT dispensation. BUT, read the Deutoronomy passage and the same six commandment is recounted with a different explanation. “remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.”

    The Sabbath of creation is the time before sin entered in. Then, we came under bondage to Satan as the God of this world. This is where the parallel is in Dt 5. “you were a servant” in the land of Egypt.

    NT application is that we were servants of sin, under bondage. Now we have the keys to walk out of sin and into the liberty of freedom FROM sin, not freedom IN sin. That is an oxymoron. There is no freedom IN sin. The wages of sin is death.

    The latter part of the passage points to the need of discernment to come out of sin. It points to the need of the Holy Spirit to guide us into proper judgment of sin for the purpose of removing it. Its no good to say “Wow, what an awesome cancer specimen” and then leave it to do its work.

    This is why the passage “let us labor to enter into His rest.”

    Blessings and Peace,

  3. jesseedavis says:

    I do see some good points in this article, but as I read it again, I notice that He ignored the context of some the Scripture he used in order to prove his point. One major problem I see is his systematic theology is WAY off. For example, if you believe in the OSAS doctrine, then a lot of things have to change to support it. Scripture becomes symbolic, words like “If…” become the basis for it being a hypothetical statement. Descriptions in the Word of a believer committing apostasy becomes fantasy. Verses and passages pertaining to believers are shoved off onto unbelievers.

    I did see however that in this article, one point clearly stood out that is true and has been lost today. Let go of your sin!! We tend to confess the same sin over and over and over, we wonder why we can’t overcome it and it is always in our minds. Has anyone ever had this happen? I have, and it took some time, because I like to hold on to stuff, but eventually I let it go and moved on.

    One thing about repentance. It is not JUST a change of mind, it is an action. Let me give you an example, if you go out witnessing in America, and you ask an unbeliever if he knows he is a sinner, most of the time he will say yes. In fact, I find that they have a sense of pride about it. They already know they are sinners, and you can even go a step further and ask them what sin is. You’ll be surprised how many people know, or at least come close to, the true definition of sin. The point is, yes, you may know you are a sinner, but what are YOU going to DO about it? Repentance is going from the east to the west. There is not just a change, but a turn.

    • I have seen people I know getting obsessed about their sins and confessing the same things over and over. Then they have confessed that they did not confess well enough. I agree this is not healthy.

      But rather than being “cool with sin” which seems to be the normal approach of the backslidden church, we need to draw near to God so that He can draw near to us and cleanse us.

      If 1 John 1:9 is not written to Christians, who is it written to? Are we being asked to believe that it is a direction to sinners? If that is the case, does it mean that in order to become a Christian one must THOROUGHLY confess all one’s sins? Where do we see an example of this in Scripture? Did Zaccheus confess ALL of his sins before Jesus pronounced him and his household saved? Or only the fact that he had stolen? An unbeliever has only a small conception of the extent of his sin and most of his sins he would not yet recognize as sins, not having a well-informed conscience. He just confesses what God shows him and keeps walking in the light that God reveals. It is only as you go on with God do you really begin to realize what lies within that must be put to death. And confession of sin is very useful to bring an ongoing cleansing. Anyone who denies this has very little experience of deliverance and probably also denies that a Christian ever needs deliverance. “Just confess that you are free and you are”. It doesn’t quite work that way.

  4. But there is a confusion of terms, and a paradigm shift needs to change on your part.

    When I finally understood the right understanding of 1 John 1:9 I literally cried in my bed, for I finally realized what unconditional love is.

    which led me now to live hebrews 4:16 in my life.

    Let me say this, just to shock to a bit, we do indeed need to repent when we sin but we don’t need to ask forgiveness…

    Just email me if you want to discuss further.



  5. jesseedavis says:

    Hey! I just want to start by telling you a little of my testimony, and know that it is meant to help you overcome.

    Throughout my entire life, I can’t remember a time when I hand very many friends. As a child, I had my family and my neighbor. When I got into high school, I started thinking more about it and how I wanted friends and I ended up in the drug scene. Partying, drinking, getting high, smoking cigarettes, porn, needless to say it took over me. Sophomore year I dropped out, with only a couple of weeks from getting my driver’s license. I got more involved with it and soon that was my life. The next year I went back to school to get my license. I got a job and was doing fine, despite my drug abuse. Not even 3 months into the school year, I dropped out for good. Throughout those three years I went from having my family and my neighbor, to having a friend. Eventually, that friend went off doing his own thing with other stuff, and so I became friends with my neighbor again, because I dragged him into it, and another friend of his. So, I had two friends.

    After about 6 months from the first time I dropped out, I stopped hanging out with the other kid, and my neighbor and I met some other kids. I became friends with them over my theft of alcohol. Eventually, shoplifting turned to heavier shoplifting which turned into burglaries and almost robberies. Praise God He got to me first.

    So I got arrested and sentenced to 6 years in prison with boot camp. I came to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ in the county and have been strong in Him. When I came to Him, He delivered me from drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes. Since then I met two guys in the county, who were really close to me and we fellowshipped day in and day out. I received my GED while in there as well.

    After leaving the county, I went to prison to wait for boot camp, and after 3 1/2 months I made it to boot camp, and watched God do some AMAZING things. After I graduated boot camp, which was 4 months, I came home to my family. My dad was strong in the Lord already through all this and so we fellowship all the time. I love my mo and brothers, and they’ve come to see a change. (Whether they’ll admit to it, I’m not sure.) Since I’ve been home, my dad and 2 other guys are the only friends I’ve had. The problem is, one is 47, and the other is in his 60’s and my dad is 50. I’m 19. There is a lot that I can’t talk to them about, and I need to talk to someone. So after praying, and praying, reading, and fellowshipping, and praying some more, I finally got overwhelmed and gave up. I spent about 4 months backsliding, still never touched drugs, alcohol, or cigarettes, but I quit reading the Bible, I stopped praying, I just said I can’t do it alone and walked away. I even posted on here about it.

    Well, I don’t know how it all happened, but the Lord picked me up, helped me dust myself off, and He assured me of His love and that He is with me. I am still waiting for someone. I’m praying for college, employment, ministry, a wife, and even still, a friend. The thing that has changed is that I made these a lesser priority than they used to be, and in fact, once I did that, I found all these things in the Lord.

    I am here for you Doug, and you can always contact me when you need to talk. If you click someone’s name (it should be a blue link), it’ll take you to their profile thing and then just click the contact tab and send me an email.

  6. jesseedavis says:

    Be careful brother!! Never let ANYONE tell you to ignore the context of Scripture as this article does. Never let ANYONE tell you that self-examination is wrong. Go to Scripture before you draw any conclusions.
    KEEP THIS IN MIND ABOUT 1 JOHN. 1 JOHN 5:13 SAYS, “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” THESE THINGS IN THIS WHOLE LETTER WERE WRITTEN TO THOSE THAT BELIEVE ON THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD. Read these following Scripture.

    “But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.” 1 Corinthians 11:28
    “Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?” 2 Corinthians 13:5
    “I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.” Psalm 32:5
    “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Proverbs 28:13
    Read Nehemiah 9 and see what Israel did according to the law. “And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers.And they stood up in their place, and read in the book of the law of the LORD their God one fourth part of the day; and another fourth part they confessed, and worshipped the LORD their God.Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.” Nehemiah 9:2-3, 6
    Read Daniel 9:19-21, and Matthew 3:5-6. Read 1 John for yourself and see what he is really saying.

    Nearly everything that tropical_guy has posted on this site is heretical, not because it contradicts what we on this site believe, but because it contradicts what Scripture explicitly says. It’s like saying that Jesus was not crucified and all those Scripture that says so is really saying something else. That is ridiculous. Study to shew thyself approved unto God.

    • Thank-you. I have just spent the last two or three hours praying since I read that article, asking the Lord if it really is true. The word heresy crossed my mind, but I won’t judge without a clear word from the Lord to me. I just know that I always feel if I do something that is sin, I feel a COMPULSION to get down on my knees, confess it, and ask forgiveness.

      I have read testimonies of people who have been given personal TOURS of hell by the Lord, and in almost every case, guess what? There are “christians” there along with the unsaved. And they are there for specific sins..some small, but no sin is small in God’s sight. Now the million dollar question: if we don’t need to confess and repent of sins in our daily Christian walk, if everything we do is just covered, then how did those poor brothers and sisters end up in that awful place???????? I don’t thing they are now quite believing in once saved, always saved.

      Believe me, there is only ONE thing I want to do, and that is be right with God and ready to stand before him on my appointed day. I spend literally hours and hours and hours fervently seeking God and I have been doing this for a couple years now.

      I DESPERATELY need someone to talk to and fellowship with. I have NO ONE. I’ve been rejected from the denominational church. It’s a very long story. I’m just extremely lonely in my life right now. I’ve become the Lone Ranger, and that is certainly not God’s will.

  7. I had been listening to Paul Washer. I had been believing him. Now this flies in the face of everything he teaches.

    Back to the old drawing board for me.

    • Paul Washer is right, Tropical_Guy is wrong (again). Christians need to repent. I have seen people totally fall away who believed that Christians don’t need to repent.

  8. Tropical_Guy says:

    This is the best writing on this subject I have seen to date

    • I think my reaction to all this is that I am going to seek God deeper, repent deeper, and confess more sins than I ever have before…

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