Christians in America – please read the warning I received in a dream

Last week I had a dream about America and it really surprised me, as I am not that interested in America and the Obama thing, as Michael is or others are, I only had a little interest in what is happening in America. So I wrote what God was saying through this dream and the actual dream below as I want to share it with Christians in America.

This is the dream:
I was in a building and future president Obama walks in before he is about to be sworn in as president – this happened on 17th of January 2009, at around 4 am .

In the dream, I thought, what an opportunity as I was alone there with him, so I went to shake his hand. First he hesitated, then he shook my hand. As I was holding his hand, I actively released the presence of God from me to him, without him knowing and I told him: God bless you and God loves you.

Then in my spirit I was trying to discern from his response back to me if he really is a Christian as he claims to be. He replied with some things about God, but I felt it was only empty words, it was not in his heart, he was just saying whatever made him look good to me. I was still holding his hand and then he began to boast how he is very approachable and even on the way to the ceremony he had coffee with a young American stranger in a coffee shop, etc.

But when he started to speak to me, I immediately felt under my feet like a boiling power that seemed to try to take over me and make me just feel he is wonderful and agree with anything he said, it did not feel like a real evil presence of the devil, full of fear, there was a bit of fear, but really it was more like a power that made you excited and stirred up to believe in him and agree with him and almost to adore him as a person, some sort of spell like power or some evil power of attraction to make you become his fan.

I knew the only reason I was not taken over by this power was because of the Holy Spirit within me keeping it under control, and I had to use my will to resist it, but otherwise people would be taken over by this and made to like him and become his fan.

Then he went in to be sworn as president and I went out and walked on the street. As I was walking in the neighborhood of the building where he was sworn in, I felt this real uneasiness in my spirit, I did not know why, but I felt compelled to return and run as quickly as I could in the building where he was getting sworn, as I knew if I stood outside, I would be in some kind of danger.

But I did not have enough time to run into the building and as I was coming closer to the building, suddenly from the building, a militia group came out with a smelling dog, with big riffle weapons and one with a megaphone.

They started to point the guns at everyone and say: From now on, if anyone is worshiping anything, they should worship the police. I thought: the police???? I could not believe what I was hearing, I was thinking inside, this sounds the same like King Nebucadnetzar in the Bible!!! And in my heart I knew that to kneel down now would be to deny Jesus, but there was such an oppresive atmosphere around me, full of fear because of the guns that were pointed from all directions at you and I found myself almost without being able to resist kneeling down. And I was thinking: Jesus, what am I doing, but the fear and the atmosphere of control was so strong that I could not resist it, yet inside I felt like dying because I felt I was denying Jesus.

Then in my soul's desperation I thought, Jesus, forgive me for this, I will repair this and confess you as soon as I am out of this trouble, not these exact words, but something with this effect.

Then I saw others around me, whom I knew they were Christians doing the same thing, and very soon everyone in the place were kneeling down the streets, basically staying on their fours with their head down because of the pressure of these police people who came closer and closer and basically point the gun at us very close to our bodies to make us get on our knees. Then the police said that the reason for this is because they have to search for someone who has stolen something – that was the excuse.

I woke up sort of troubled around 4 am and could not sleep anymore after this. I was wondering what to do with this dream and why I got it, I don't even have a burden much for America, except that I have lived there for 6 months and I have sort of followed what is going on there in general, as it is an important nation from many points of view.

I concluded that God gave me this dream to share with my American Christian brothers to warn them about what is coming during the president Obama times. And that they should pray so that they are not weak to deny Jesus under pressure, but strong to even not love their lives even unto death, to rather choose to die than deny Jesus.

It is easier to say you won't deny Jesus when the gun is not pointing in your face, but under pressure it is another story unless your spirit man is strong and your commitment unconditional and total.

I once had another dream about persecution coming to Australia, and the Lord told me to get ready for it, so I can stand in those times, so I have asked Him how to get ready. He told me that I have to set my mind to be willing to suffer for Jesus and to read the lives of martyrs for Jesus, so I bought an Encyclopedia of Christian Martyrs and have been reading from there. Certainly their level of Christianity was rather different in the way they lived their lives and much higher than ours and their reactions close to death very admirable. So, I encourage you to prepare yourself the same.

Basically God says to us to prepare just as this Bible verse says:

"Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, ARM YOURSELVES ALSO WITH THE SAME MIND, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God. For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the Gentiles—when we walked in lewdness, lusts, drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties, and abominable idolatries." (1 Peter 4:1-3)

Also, this verse tells us also to be prepared to suffer with Jesus, to bear His reproach – I know it is not a very common doctrine these days, but you would be surprised how much the theme of suffering for Jesus is actually mentioned in the New Testament. We have been protected till now for a long time from persecution in the West, but times will change and we need to be ready for the change:

"Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate. THEREFORE LET US GO FORTH TO HIM, OUTSIDE THE CAMP, BEARING HIS REPROACH. For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come.' (Hebrews 13:12-14)

This Bible verse teaches us why we should be willing to go to Jesus, outside the camp, to bear His reproach and suffer with Him, as He suffered outside the camp. The reason is because we are here only temporarily, we really are seeking another world, we are in transit here, so therefore what happens to us here is not as relevant as getting to our destination – heaven. Therefore this means that our minds have to be fixed on eternity, on the things from above and not on the things of the earth (Colossians 3:2).

If you read Hebrews 11, the whole chapter is about the fact that we have to live in faith, as seeking another city and with the eyes on the reward. Look at Moses:
"By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, ESTEEMING THE REPROACH OF CHRIST GREATER RICHES than the treasures in Egypt; FOR HE LOOKED TO THE REWARD. " Why was he willing to give up so much for God, because he looked to the reward. Also, it says about other saints that they were seeking another city, another country, a better, heavenly country.

Now, how does this relate to us? Hebrews 12:1-2 tells us:

Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who FOR THE JOY THAT WAS SET BEFORE HIM endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

We start by laying aside anything that weighs us down in our spirit, we lay aside sin, and we use endurance to run the Christian race, but not anyhow, with our eyes on Jesus, who is able to help us finish the race. But we are told to focus on a particular aspect of Jesus, Jesus who suffered, who endured the cross. And what are we to learn from this? That he only was able to endure the cross, because he had his eyes on the joy set before Him, He also looked at the reward! We are the reward and also the honor He received as a result of His obedience was another reward.

Do you even know what the reward that is awaiting you if you follow Jesus till the end is? Have you meditated on it? Is it alive in your heart? If not, I encourage you to start making it a focus in your life to meditate on eternity, heaven and the reward of those who are faithful to Jesus till the end. Read the promises God made to the 7 churches in the book of Revelation if they follow Him till the end and overcome.

Where are you looking? To your government? To your bank account? To your possessions? To the comforts of an easy life? Or have you fixed your eyes on Jesus, on the better, heavenly country? On the reward you will receive as a faithful follower of Jesus? On eternity and heaven?

On the 'Well done, good and faithful servant, enter into the JOY of your Lord." ? See, Jesus had a joy set before Him and so do we! And God's response does not end with 'good and faithful servant'. It continues with: 'you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things.' (Matthew 25:21). There is a reward of honor and greater responsibility which God will bestow on you, if you are faithful. And faithful means obedient to God's commands, not necessarily miracles, healing and deliverance success, but holiness of the heart which results in obedience as a lifestyle and intimate fellowship with Jesus. Just as Jesus said: 'Not everyone who says to Me: Lord, Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in heaven (Matthew 7: 21)

A prophetess from Romania told me that there will come times when the Bible will be taken away from us, and therefore the only thing we will be left then will be the Word that we have hidden in our heart, so she urged me to spend time in the Word, to memorize it and get it in my heart. I also encourage you to do the same.

So, in summary how can we prepare for what will come:

1. Arm yourselves with a mind willing to suffer for Jesus.
2. Read the lives of martyrs for Jesus. I recommend reading 'The New Encyclopedia of Christian Martyrs'
3. Put any weights and sin aside
4. Run the race with endurance by looking at the reward
5. Make obedience and intimacy with Jesus your goal, not just the manifestation of the power of God through you.
6. Gather plenty of the Word of God in your heart, that you may not sin against God and be strong in your spirit man.

May God bless you as you take this message to heart and unite your heart to fear His Name, so you become a doer of the Word and not a hearer only, deceiving yourself. God is kind, and He is giving us warnings and time to prepare, we cannot procrastinate any longer as we have done till now, since the time limits will not permit us too long to get ready. We will either be ready or not, when the time comes to face the test of our heart commitment to Jesus. I encourage you to be a wise virgin, not a foolish one. Let us not ignore God's voice anymore, but realize that obedience with Him will set us up for great rewards in eternity.

PS. Note:
The next day I went on the internet to see if there is anything said about Obama and police. Well, I was shocked to hear from Obama's own mouth on a video the following:
'We cannot continue to reply only on our military, in order to achieve our national security objectives that we have set. We got to have a CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE that's just as powerful, just as strong and just as well funded. ' You can watch the clip for yourselves at: . I wonder if you realize that Hitler also had the same kind of civilian national security force??

Also, Obama's grandmother publicly admitted that even from the primaries she has been sacrificing chickens and libations DAILY in order to help Obama win the election (read about it on archive). Now, what power has been behind him to make the people of America elect him, after all these daily blood sacrifices, probably the power I felt in the dream that was making you come under a sort of a spell where you thought he was wonderful, become his fan and really trust him. Something to think and pray about!

As I was reading the Bible the next morning after reading this, a Bible verse stood out which gives hope for the American people:

'Many seek the ruler's favor, but justice for man comes from the Lord.' (Proverbs 29:26) Many Americans are looking now to Obama, for favour, for hope for a better future, but justice for the American people comes from the Lord, look to the Lord from where justice will come for you, not to your ruler.

What do YOU think?


About Marilena Fackerell


  1. Hi Everyone?

    Equating Obama to an anti-christ is not right at the moment.

    He may not be as religious as most of the people around here.

    It is prudent that people pray hard and watch his moves with regard to Biblical teachings.
    Right now, it is not prudent to cast the first stone at him without first looking at ourselves.

    His grandmother may have sacrificed Chickens or whatever,…. that is his grandmother, not Obama.

    Let everyone be judged according to his/her actions in line with biblical standards.

    • He acted immediately to facilitate the murder of more unborn babies – especially African American babies – through loosening the abortion laws.

      He is reversing the limits on tampering with human embryos for scientific experiments.

      He has increased the national debt of the USA even more than Bush did – mortgaging the future of Americans to bail out THE BANKERS and HIS CORPORATE SPONSORS who got him elected to the White House in the first place.

      I have heard – though I have not personally verified – that he has put conditions on bailout money for Universities that if they want this money they must ban Christian prayer and Bible study on their campuses.

      He has signed legislation of over 1000 pages of Bailout Legislation that no one in Congress was able to read before voting for it – thus trashing any respect for the democratic process.

      What we can expect further:

      * More lies

      * Legislation similar to that in Canada which would put anyone critical of the homosexual agenda behind bars or in the poorhouse.

      * Bribery of church leaders in the form of government funding for those who forsake the preaching of the Gospel and turn instead to politically correct taxpayer funded social works programs.

      * Programs to recruit the masses of newly unemployed Americans into public works slave gangs and domestic security officials – secret police.

      * The implementation of State takeovers of much of the housing industry – communism in other words.

      * Concessions made to muslim extremists

      * And much more …

      Wake up and smell the coffee.

      • gate007 says:

        Barack Obama is President of the United States because he is what the majority of American people wanted in 2008. He told them what they wanted to hear. Why? Cuz we got itchy ears that’s why. Change he said…and just what you’ll get. We want someone else to take responsibility and make our problems go away. Obama…is our Lord and savior and he will do just that……not!

        Americans want a cradle to grave government. Obama will give this to them but at what cost? Watch and see.

        Though Bush set it up, Obama will likely be the one to take major initiatives for the NWO in the coming years. Watch for the crash of the US dollar, chaos and crisis on Wall Street and in the job market, 25% unemployment and the implementation of martial law within 5 years. Maybe sooner?

        Not too worry………then comes the North American Union, where our constitution will be suspended and then a new one drawn between America, Canada and Mexico. However, this new constitution will be very much different. Your religious and gun rights will be gone.

        If ya feel like getting mouthy with the foreign soldiers from the UN, who will enforce these new martial laws, then we have a list of some 600 detention camps ready for you and all your friends. Think not? Make me laugh. They’re right here in AZ and New Mexico. We’re waiting for you.

        So you see Obama has a purpose. To usher in the New World Order. He may not be the final step but he will be a significant step. This is all part of the master plan.

        According to those formerly in the Illuminati, the year 2020 has been set for the One World Government.

        Well see?

        • 2020?

          Deep inside me, I really don’t feel we will make it that far. I could be wrong..but most days, it seems a miracle that we survive another day, let alone a decade.

          You can scour the intermet and find a plethora of prophecies.

          I have.

          After a few hundred of these, the old “Boy that cried wolf” syndrome kicks in quite strongly.

          My reaction? Test the spirits. I take everything cautiously, with a grain of proverbial salt. I desperately want to believe, and I think “This may be the one”. But then, I think. “I’ve heard it all before”.

          I go to the Lord and ask Him personally myself. And if I don’t hear an answer, then I just continue to try the best I know how with the light I have.

          What more can anyone do? What more could He expect of us?

  2. Hi everyone,

    This is the time to pray. I think if you really want to know what your new president stands for that badly, just seek God–He’ll show you and make it painfully obvious to you, really. The question really is whether you would be able to accept it if you were shown, whatever you independently think. The time is to pray, friends.

    “By their fruits shall ye know them.” It’s really that simple.

    Pray, Americans. Pray. Your country and future depends on it. Everything else is secondary.

    In Jesus’ name.

  3. On the net I find most of the recent prophecies about America, I wonder what about the rest of the world. How do people from other countries be warned of their fate? Everybody is so busy with America that others nations are almost deprived of the prophecies, so that they can correct themselves of where they are lacking. Is God mostly concerned about America?

    • We have to acknowledge that the USA is the most powerful and influential country today. There are many prophecies, true and false, concerning America.

      But there are true prophecies given by God concerning other nations. Perhaps every nation.

      Based on what I have heard, China and India are the two nations God will especially bless, and cause to rise. There are many sincere Christians in these countries also.

    • You might be surprised. I’m from Ghana in West Africa and during our elections last christmas, pretty much the whole country was seeking God. The electoral office had a small skirmish and got scared, then they called some of the pastors, and people started praying like crazy, and we had a peaceful election by God’s grace.

      I’m reminded of the part of the Bible that said that there were lots of other prophets who had not bowed to Baal when the prophet thought he was the only one.

      Actually, having been in the United States for the last 2 years, my impression is that this place has been allowed to become way too secular. Jesus didn’t try to please everyone, and you shouldn’t be doing that. It is dangerous.

      Other places in the world are praying like you would not believe, and the prophecies and signs and wonders are not out of the ordinary at all especially in these days.

      We must all pray.

      Best wishes.

  4. Brothers and sisters in the Lord,

    I just want you to know that things on earth according to the word of God will go downhill as the Lord Jesus said in Math.24. Do not expect presidents to always do right things. Know that since its foundation, America has never been governed by a single christian. All the presidents were either freee-masons or members of the secret society called skulls and bones(illuminatists)and supported slavery, segregation, social injustice and occultism which deplease our God. As long as all these were done by a certain race it was not a serious sin for some. I am an African and a born-again christian and not Obama’s fan because i know he is a 32nd degree free-mason and not a christian at all(can a christian be a smoker? just to mention this before we touch other ereas of his life that are hidden to us).

    This is a time for not only Americans but for all of us to be serious with God and know that we are pilgrims on this earth and also be ready for the second coming of our precious Lord Jesus Christ. Cursed is the man who puts his trust in men.

    Let’s wake up because things will go from bad to worse on this earth where some want to dwell forever. I know that most of us are feeling more proud to be called Americans, Australian, French, African than being called CHRISTIAN. Our problem is that we do not want to be disconnected from our earthly nationality that makes us proud before other peoples to grasp our true identity in Christ and live a Christlike life.

    Where do you and i stand on our faith? Do you and i live a life that glorifies God? Are you and i more proud to be called a christian than …? Have you and i ever shared the gospel to our neighbour? Are you and i a light at work, school and in the city where we live in? Are you and i looking up to politicians or to God?

    Let me disappoint you today: There is no hope in this world. But there is Hope in the Lamb of God who shed his Blood for us, for He is Coming for our Good.

  5. Peer Stapelton says:

    Marilena thanks for sharing your dream, Jesse for your pertinent example and Michael for presenting balance on the matter of Divine Appointments.

    Scripture tells us that God’s thoughts and ways are quite different to ours. More specifically Isaiah emphasizes that “God’s way’s are higher than ours?”. Later Isaiah informs us that God occupies a High and Holy Place with his Son.

    Theologians spend much time pondering the apparent contradictions of Scripture with respect to free will versus (pre)election. These contradictions only arise when we view Scripture through the natural mind. Viewed through the eyes of the Spirit Scripture is without wrinkle or contradiction. Remember the Father from eternity knows no past, no future- but an eternal present (as revealed in his Name). All is stretched before him- from the beginning- at the beginning. It is not that all is foreseen (as Calvin proposed), it is that all is laid out- a subtle but determining difference. In this difference lies the answer to the enigma of time, election and free will.

    In Eternity if anything is changed, then it has always been changed. In eternity there is no trail of change only “is”

    What does this mean? It means your prayers count! On this basis I would like to pose certain questions- that are relevant to the tumult in which we find ourselves.

    # Is Obama appointed by God? & if so, does this imply that Obama is a puppet on a Divine string without the freedom to exercise choice to do right?

    # How should the American people respond to make a difference? OR is this settled by the momentum of end-time prophecy marching the United States of America towards Judgment?

    # How should those children of God sojourning in the United States of America respond?

    thank you- Peer

    • jesseedavis says:

      Side note really quick, it’s done this to me a few times, but what does “You can’t request more than 20 challenges without solving them. Your previous challenges were flushed.” mean? Does that mean that some things that I wrote previously are deleted?

      Anyways, on to the more important matter. I really love how you said this Peer this is something that I’ve been praying about and now through you God has answered.

      About your questions, this analogy came to mind about things like “If this is going to happen anyways, why do anything?” The analogy of a pet. You buy a pet as a baby (or so), but you know it’ll eventually die. So do you just let it die when you get it, or do you take care of it and love it and be friends with it until it dies? I think as for what we do for this country and this world, we should always base our answers on first, Scripture, but also as it was put under our care from the start, we should also do everything we can to take care of it. Does this make sense to you guys?

      • Jessee- this is a “spot on response”- I suggest that the Spirit answers this in the account of Jonah, we know this Scripture well. The Ninevites repent and Jonah is consumed by frustration /anger feeling that his journey was unnecessary because God extended compassion. Jonah was wrong for a messenger was required, the recipients had to consider and respond to the message (even a non-response counts), then the Will of God was “finalized”.

        We are living in perilous times- the bees are dying, polar bears are drowning and nations are swimming in spiritual sewerage. Surely Scripture declares certain events as decided and final- but what about the sub plots?

        A great example is an orchestral recital. We might know the theme, even the movements- and predict these to the very point. What we don’t know, what is not fixed is the individual performance of each musician.

        We are those musicians striking unique notes- and this is where our freedom to choose and to be counted lies.

        This brings me to ask- What should we be doing?

        • jesseedavis says:

          Wait, the message I got about the 20 challenges or whatever was a “spot on response” or do you mean that the answer to your questions was answered in the response you made.

    • I have seen that a number of believers have asked, what shall we do now? Good question, it is the same question they have asked in the book of Acts after the first sermon of Peter.

      The main think that I feel is very timely now for America is this:
      2 Chronicles 7:13-15 (New King James Version)

      When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people, IF MY PEOPLE who are called by My name will HUMBLE THEMSELVES, and PRAY AND SEEK MY FACE, and TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to prayer made in this place.

      If God shut up blessing from being over the nation and if the land has been devoured financially, God gives the recipe for restoration:

      There is no other way…. If these conditions are met, God will heal the land. And do not think, oh, I will let others do this, or get discouraged thinking that not many will do this, God only needs a remnant which becomes the man in he gap, who please God and intercede for the rest, God did not wipe out the whole of Israel because Moses interceded.

      I have mentioned after the dream the things that I felt Christians in America and all over the world must do in order to prepare for what is coming. But I felt strongly to say one more thing. What Americans must do more than anything is go before God and seek Jesus and ask Him to have mercy on them and to give them the ability to repent in every area where they know they are not pleasing the Lord.

      Blessing and refreshing comes after repentance. More than anything, since we do not know what the future will hold, we need to make sure we are ready to meet with Jesus at any time. Let’s not outsmart ourselves and think that we have time to repent, so thought the foolish virgins probably. Jesus tells us to be ready because we DO NOT KNOW when He will come back.

      What if our interpretations of what needs to happen first before the end comes are wrong, as they were in the times of Jesus and misunderstood God’s plan? Let’s be ready, not just selfishly so we can slip into heaven, but let’s be ready so we can do the most for God – that is if we love Him indeed – before the night comes when we CANNOT work anymore.

      I would hate to think of the remorse we could experience before the throne of God, of what we could have done but we no longer have a chance to do? We are cheating ourselves of the rewards that God intends for us. We have a sure appointment with Jesus Christ which we must all keep when we die, and we better get ready for it! Let’s put aside a bit the destiny of America as a nation, and focus on the our eternal destination – as I read the Bible, if you do not do the will of God, you will not enter heaven, it is not enough to say: Lord, Lord, haven’t we done this or that in Your Name? He said, only those who DO HIS WILL (not just sort of try, but actually do) will enter His kingdom.

      I believe we are saved by grace, but we need to endure to the end (as it says in the book of Revelation) in order to maintain our salvation. In the book of Revelation God talks about the fact that He will not blot out the names from the book of Life, which tells me that you could be written in the book and then have your name blot out because you did not endure till the end walking in the path of salvation on which you started.

      Based on this, I think repentance and seeking God for Himself, to live for HIS GLORY, HIS HONOUR, and have the fear of God that we should have, reverence and holy fear and be willing to suffer in our flesh for the honour of His Name, etc. We need to come back to the foundation of repentance and faith that God IS A REWARDER of those who diligently seek Him.

  6. thesparrow says:

    I read the original post and all the replies. From the original, I got affirmation from the Holy Spirit that what she wrote was true.

    I can see how powerful Obama is; to get so many to vote for him.

    Although I got the impression that he was faking(like wearing a false face) a lot of things, I could also see how many not knowing what the Bible said, could fall under his type of charisma. At one point I was almost ready to believe him but the Holy Spirit got me out of that idea very quickly.

    Before he was elected I lost a good friend of many years. She is black and I am white.

    I began to say I didn’t agree with abortions and same sex marriages. She wouldn’t let me say anything and explain what I was against. She didn’t want to hear anything and
    hung up on me. I believe she thought I was just against a black man being a president. (I sent her a Christmas card but she didn’t send me one.)

    She should know that wasn’t so. It was a black church I went to. They all loved me. Treated me better than any white church.The preacher and his family took me out to lunch every Sunday.

    A black man in the high rise yelled at me before I could say my real reason for not wanting to vote for him. We got along good before that.

    That isn’t the whole point.

    I’m not too political minded but I did hear someone talk about a new world order.

    MY country has gone to the dogs. Went down hill when TV was allowed to have all kinds of sick programs which even kids could watch. Toys where kids killed characters in a game. To them it was funny

    I went to a movie with my family. It wasn’t fun at all. It had a cultic ring to it. My little great grand daughter didn’t even like it except for one little part.

    I could go on. This country does have to be punished.

    I have been in cults but God got me out and uses my experiences to warn others how easy it is to get into occults and false teachings.

    When many can get easily trapped in these,it won’t take much to believe what a leader can teach.

    God can use a president to bring this country down until they get to their knees.

    I believe he could be leading up to the antichrist.

    We all need to get on our knees.

    Lord have mercy on us.

    PS. I am 78 years old and remember when the morals of this country were much better

  7. I am responding to the various posts on whether Obama is or is not a Christian.

    In 2008 June the inner voice prompted me to thoroughly investigate McCain and Obama to understand their precise offering to the nation. McCain, is an open person- his education, his qualifications, his records are open for all to see. On following Obama’s trail, I find that apart from his self written biographies there is zero paper trail. I searched the main stream media with no success. It seems that the only “credible” information on Obama is Obama’s self written biographies- very strange.

    Later I discovered why. Obama has had his college and other records sealed through his attorneys: that is his Occidental College, Columbia and Harvard records to a cost of close on $ 800 000. I ask you what man would seal all his records at such a great cost- and why has the National Media not commented on this?

    However, in terms of his walking with the Lord jesus this is what counts. I discovered that a single paper managed to escape the attention of his attorneys, a term paper written whilst at Harvard. Here Obama discusses the constitutional merits of Abortion in relation to “reproductive rights”. His bottom line in this paper is that abortion should be seen as a gift to the unborn child who is faced with the trauma of being born into the misery of a low income single parent household. Makes you think.

    Obama’s position on abortion goes well beyond that held by extreme advocates of PRO CHOICE. What precisely are Oabam’s views. These are best revealed in an Illinois Senate bill co-sponsored by Obama. Currently an equivalent bill is situated in Congress awaiting debate and signature.

    The Nitty Gritty of the Freedom of Choice Act.

    > parental notification of a minor’s abortion not required
    > parental permission is not required
    > a woman may have an abortion without consent of husband
    > A woman may have an abortion without notification of husband
    > fetus may be aborted right up until the ninth month
    > Partial abortions permitted at any pregnancy stage
    > medical practitioners in federal funded institutions who disavow performing abortions face dismissal.
    > aborted fetuses which survive may not be offered medical assistance

    Read through the above list carefully- each one of these clauses has personally been stamped by Obama.

    On the campaign trail, Obama promised that on assuming the ofice of POTUS his first priority would be to deal with the Freedom of Choice Act (Reproductive rights). Obama did not fail to disappoint. Within days of assuming office his first Executive Act permits federal funding for foreign organizations which promot or performed abortions.

    Some Questions:

    > Parental Notification not required

    How possibly can a christian motivate a bill which precludes a parent’s right to know that their child is considering abortion? How does a parent deal with possible emotional trauma if they are not informed? I know of no healthy community, believing or heathen, that would not consider this an attack on the very foundation of family.

    > Parental Consent not required

    How possibly can a Christian motivate the removal of parental consent for a minor’s abortion? Again this undermines the natural authority of parents.

    > Partial Abortion at any period in the pregnancy?

    How possibly can a Christian motivate allowing the abortion of a child up to the 9th month by partial abortion thereby escaping the legal charge of murder? Partial abortion at 8 months?

    > Disallowing Medical Assistance to surviving fetuses?

    No comment is necessary here.

    > wife is not required to notify husband of abortion ?

    I repeat, even in heathen communities this would be regarded at a vicious attack on the integrity of the institution of marriage, let alone those born of our Lord.

    What ideology?

    We must question what ideology would motivate a person advocating these views? There is one, you find it in totalatarian states such as Hitler’s National Socialism and not least in classical Marxist-Leninist thinking- the state is all powerful and the individual is empowered at the expense of family, at the expense of the sacrament of marriage.

    But these were not my first thoughts.


    I sat back stunned. There was but one thought on my mind- this man is motivated and guided by that which is truly evil. This man is a sick puppy.

    Not only do we have a man with a moral compass of an alley cat sitting in the White House but this is the man that the majority of our nation and especially youth love and applaud.

    After reading this the inner voice spoke up: “God tips the hand of the impostor revealing his true colors so that his people may know!”

    On the matters that I have described above- even if a nation by its laws extends the right of a woman to choose abortion and Obama is promoting this leaving it up to personal choice, to extend this to remove parental consent for a minor’s choice to abort or further the right of a parent to be notified is a law which undermines the family. To permit a wife to abort without notifying the husband of this matter is a law which undermines marriage.

    For those who believe that a man who advocates this possesses the Holy Spirit…?


  8. jesseedavis says:

    I think the perfect example of this type of situation is in the Old Testament, which is where this all started. When the nation of Israel pleaded to God that they wanted a king just like all the other nations. Also, the example of every king in the Old Testament, whether Israelite or foreigner.

    Understand this, in 1 Samuel 8, Israel wanted a king to judge them like all the other nations. Israel was not following the ways of the Lord, which resulted in this request. God said this, “Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.”

    Every king Israel ever had is a replacement for God. Every king Israel ever had was appointed by God through some prophet, or some way or other. Very few of these kings did anything good for either nation. None of these kings, including David, walked exactly or did everything the LORD wanted.

    Application: Every president is appointed by God. To say they all will do good, or bring about anything good is simply not Biblical, nor is it historical. During each election, or at least, most elections, there is someone who is going to do right and someone will do wrong. Not an absolute right or wrong, but we all know that Republican/Democratic are basically opposites.

    McCain was supporting a lot of the right things. Obama was supporting a lot of the wrong things. To see that Obama was chosen for president by God shows us the status of our country. Judgment, idolatry, homosexuality, corruption in authority, and just about every form and level of moral bankruptcy. It is going downhill, but it is for the will of God. When we reach bottom, we are forced to look up. When we are in crisis, we are forced to seek help. The passive judgment this country is going through is for the purpose of repentance.

  9. People say that he was not but I don’t agree. I’ve prayed about Obama and God said through a prophet that he wants to use this individual. I’m just want to see what you may think or what the lord has revealed to you about President Obama.

    • Every president that comes is in a sense appointed by God to be president. Romans 13 teaches that, doesn’t it?

      Romans 13:1 “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.”

      Because America is currently under the Judgment of God, God has raised up Obama to bring the nation down, just as He raised up Bush before him to bring the nation down. They just do it in different ways.

      • An element of Calvinism

        • You know the Scripture teaches that God is sovereign over the kingdoms of this world, and that He raises up evil kings and calls them his servants and instruments at times.

          Calvinism sometimes goes wrong where it takes Scriptures describing a particular event and then makes the claim that God ALWAYS does this. It also goes wrong when it takes passages which apply to corporate predestination which applies to God’s choice of nations and reads into it that God is determining beforehand whether people are to be saved or damned – irrespective of their free will choices. Calvinism denies that any sinner really has the capacity to say either yes or no to God’s grace at the times when God’s grace comes to them. In Calvinism it is always God’s decision if someone gets saved or sins unto death. I don’t agree that. I don’t think you have to read the Bible that way, even the passages that at first glance might support that view.

          Its hard for any theological system to be TOTALLY wrong on everything, and Calvinism is no exception. There is truth in it, though not so much in the so called “Five Points” as I see it.

      • God’s appointment of men to positions is a mystery. Each man is appointed to a position, all that varies is the stature of the position. One is appointed to head a household, another to guide a business and another to head up a nation. All of these are appointments by God.

        Surveying the nations, there is not one nation that has joined itself to the purposes of God, not one. In what way, would a nation put God first? By making God the first and final arbitrator of the Law of the Land, the appointment to government office and the teaching of morals to the people.

        In these matters, all nations stand in defiance of God. America’s sins are not unique: defiance of God, rejection of the Son and from this the very large corollary set: debt financing, consume or die, a perverted freedom of speech (freedom to promote and practice licentiousness)…. America’s unique position is simply that of the great harlot promoting such ware and encouraging debauchery

        So- each nation gets the leaders that it deserves and through these leaders, the plans of God are put into effect! Prince Obama is but one prince of many- all faithfully guiding their nations into the final judgment.

        Christians know and facts on the ground support that a nations stability and prosperity is linked to its fairness or rather good will shown towards Israel- here we note “fairness” not a slavish support for Israel’s policies.

        Interestingly we only have to look at these quite different nations: Germany, U.S.A., Czech Republic and Poland to see how each has fared in terms of war-peace, prosperity etc.

        Out of these, Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic provides the most interesting read. For it is this nation that assisted Israel in its great time of need 1948 and again today it is this nation that stood up to be counted despite fierce opposition from the EEC leading weights. We should not be surprised to see this nation faring better than most in the grueling days ahead.

    • Hi,

      I believe Obama was appointed as Michael said as a president, meaning that God can use him for His sovereign purposes, no matter what he believes or is. So in that sense I believe he was appointed by God, but I do not believe he is a true Christian, a believer or a disciple of Christ, though he sort of tries to imply here and there that he is.

      God says we will know them by their fruits. His present fruits of his first days of presidency is of supporting the killing of the innocent unborn children, this is the fruit of murder.

      The fruit of lawlessness is also there, by having gay bishops pray at his inauguration and supporting the gay agenda. Do not be deceived, a bad tree CANNOT bear good fruit, nor a good tree bear bad fruit. The fruit is the test of who he really is, words are just political agendas.

      You asked what I feel the Lord revealed to me about president Obama, I feel through this dream He revealed to me that his face as a Christian is just a fake one, it is not in his heart, that he has an evil power accompany him that is deceiving, because it feels Anti-Christ like (I am not saying he is the Anti-Christ), it is a seducing power which seduces people to eat out of his hand and agree with him, but it will not work with the true Christians. I believe this power is behind his success in elections.

      Someone above said I did not interpret the dream right, I do not agree with that interpretation, I know what my heart felt in my heart in the dream, those that power did not feel evil, I want to clarify that it was, but it gave the appearance of not being evil, but it was, it was trying to control people through evil seductive (I don’t mean sexual deductive, but spiritual seductive) power.

      • Jesus'sgirl says:

        hi i agree with you! there,real God’s man lives in total obedience and not to please man but to please God,not to work to please men but to please God,i mean to live in total obedience to all his laws,”he said in His Words you shall not kill,but this man he’s doing the opposite what God instruct us to do ,you cannot go over God’s law if you are a God’s choosen one,you must submit totally not half of you but our whole being to God.
        God bless

  10. I absolutely agree.
    God bless you

    • Well as you know the bible tells us that God appoints the rulers so to say Obama was appointed by the devil is preposterous. I know a prophet and we prayed about obama in early 2008 and God told us he’d be president and God said he’d use him for his purpose.

      May the Lord reveal his truth to all who seek truth…

      • The Word of God says we will know people by their fruits, so why trust the words of a prophet above the words of God? Prophets can say things and be wrong, we are to test prophecies, not to just believe them above the principles in the Word of God that tells us how to test and know if someone is of God or not.

        God might use him for his purpose maybe in the same sense as he used any king in the history of the world for His purposes, but I just want to make it clear that to use someone for God’s purpose DOES NOT MEAN God’s approval of that man as a man of God.

        • Now everybody must remember that Yes i agree God
          has a purpose for everybody, but you must remember
          that you CANNOT say a person is the anti-Christ until
          there is sufficient proof. An proof i mean as, we know
          using the different prophets (Daniel, john and etc) to
          justify this. By scripture we must do this. Please remember that.

          Secondly, personally we must remember to love. We must not
          judge obama, because of something he has said. Because as you
          know in WWII Hitler people though was the anti-Christ. But
          as the bible says: “For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and he will deceive many.” But Hitler wasn’t the Anti-Christ, though i do believe that Satan did visit the earth and recruited a army of sinners, because why did Hitler hate the Jews? It has a lot of “backbone” behind that.

          Now if you read further in Matthew Jesus actually describes
          the lead up to ‘Jacob’s Trouble’. And you will hear ‘war’s and rumors of wars’. Then you read verse 7. “For nation will rise up against nation and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.”
          Then we read verse 8. This sums it up.
          “All the are the BEGINNING of sorrows”. NKJB.

          Also you must be remember. We must be wise as serpents but a
          meek as lambs. Yes we are approaching the “end times” so we should be more wise, but we must be still meek, we must still uphold what god has said which is “love one another.” Please

          I’m not going to write about the entire chapter but Mathew 24 is a very good source looking at it in perspective today.



          • 1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

            We may not know the ultimate Antichrist. But we can discern the spirit of antichrist at work in certain leaders.

            Blessings and Peace,

          • Yes Exactly,

            Yes that is correct, but the only way that we can really
            be sure that obama is a anti-Christ or the ultimate anti-Christ biblicaly his actions will align with god judgments. Then you will have a %100 guarantee. You can’t say obama is the ultimate anti-Christ when revelation say’s: “He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.” Revelation 6:2 NKJ.

            He hasn’t even fulfilled it. Remember that.

            Now i’ve got a question when the bible say’s “…Don’t hurt the wine or the oil”. Oil confuses me because in America fuel prices are pretty cheap compared to other countries, but with cooperation’s making so much over fuel surcharging, what fuel will stay around the same price while food skyrockets? Well were seeing that in Australia, though we haven’t seen that the price of food sore’s like it say’s in the bible.

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