Welcome to Bible Study !

I invite you to participate in Bible Study and meditate on God’s Word. I’m starting with ‘Book of Esther’, which is one of my favourite book. Esther is one of the most humble person described in Bible which won favour of everyone. She ultimately risked her life to save her Jewish people.
BOOK OF ESTHER
Summary of Chapter 1
King Ahasuerus gave banquet for all nobles & officials. He displayed the vast wealth of his kingdom and the splendour and glory of his majesty. He also wanted to display Queen Vashti’s beauty to the people and nobles for she was lovely to look at. But Queen Vashti refused king’s command. The king was angry & furious. The king consulted his wise men as to ‘what should be done to Queen Vashti ? ‘ according to law. Then Memucan replied that ‘Queen Vashti has done wrong, so her royal position should be given to someone better than her.
Now I got some questions :
Q.1. Why was it wrong if Queen Vashti did not display her beauty ? As a woman, may be she did not feel comfortable to show herself to others ? or was she very arrogant to accept king’s command?
Q.2. How would have Queen Esther reacted to the same command ?

What do YOU think?

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  1. childofjesus says:

    After the fateful death of Haman, the king gave queen Esther the estate of Haman. The king also took off his signet ring, which he had reclaimed from Haman, and presented it to Mordecai and Esther appointed him over Haman’s estate. Esther again pleaded with the king, falling at his feet and weeping to issue an order overruling the despatches that Haman wrote to destroy the Jews. For how can I bear to see the disaster fall on my people ? How can I bear to see the destruction of my family ?
    The king summoned his royal secretaries and asked them to write all Mordecai’s orders to the Jews and to the satraps, governors and nobles of the 127 provinces stretching from India to Cush. The king’s edict granted the Jews the right to assemble and protect themselves, to destroy, kill and annihilate any armed force of any nationality or province that might attack them and their women and children; and to plunder the property of their enemies. In every province and in every city, wherever the edict of the king went, there was joy and gladness among the Jews with feasting & celebrating.
    Q.1. Are we taking the Gospel of Jesus Christ to bring joy & gladness to those who have not heard the message of Salvation ?
    Q.2. Are we using the Authority that Jesus has given us to drive away sickness, fear, demons, depression, anxiety, loneliness, poverty and all the works of the devil through our faith, hope & love ?

    • childofjesus says:

      My son who is 4 years old now, had befriended 3 brothers (elder one 6 years, middle one 5 and youngest one 4 years), who had come to their aunt’s place in my neighbourhood for summer vocation. I came to know that they had lost their father and her mother was working alone to meet their ends meet. These kids came to my house, loved to play with toys and watch TV.
      On June 2nd, we celebrated my son’s birthday and we had invited children from our neighbourhood. These 3 kids came to the party without gifts but they were the only kids who did not waste any food. I could see their happiness when I gave them return gifts.
      I noticed that the middle one and the youngest one always had boils on their face. They told me that b’cos of ‘eating lot of mangoes’ they get these boils. I remember as kids some of us had such boils by eating excess mangoes, may be some bodies cannot withstand the heat it produces after eating it. It should always be cooled (in fridge) and then eaten. Anyway, my son & those children had nice time together with lots of complains too. They told me that they are going back to their home as their school is re-opening. I just felt like praying for them so I made them stand together and I prayed & blessed them. After I prayed, my heart was filled with joy which lasted for the whole day.
      In Mark 9:36 – He (Jesus) took a little child and had him stand among them. Taking him in his arms, he said to them, “Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me does not welcome me but the one who sent me”.

      • Its a great ministry to love little children. It really makes for a long term impact.

      • Annette1016 says:

        When my girls were small, i always liked to remodel and some of the time I would take a few hammers and nails and some saws and tape measures. And then we would just start making things! Most of the neighbor kids would come by and join in, and sometimes we would talk about their problems and pray, it was such a blessing. And the things those kids imagined they made! Delightful! My Grandfather did the same things I hear. Once he made all the kids in the neighborhood stilts. they never forgot that! But a kind word and the right prayer can lift a child up very high!

    • Annette1016 says:

      Honestly, on both questions, I know we are supposed to walk through the valley of the shadow of death, not sit and camp in it. Yet for a very long time I let my hurt and anger and self hate get in the way of my relationship with our Lord! I am still finding things to hand over to Jesus and to overcome? For so long my belief and faith in God has never been shaken, but my understanding of who I was in him or the glory he gives to me never reached my heart! Now I am grabbing on with both hands and Loving myself so that I can carry out the command of, Love yourself. The attacks mentally still occur but they are becoming less and less! Praise Christ Jesus our Lord and King!
      Annette

  2. childofjesus says:

    Chapter 7 reminds me of Proverbs 26: 27 – “If a man digs a pit, he will fall into it : if a man rolls a stone, it will roll back on him.”
    The king and Haman went to dine with Queen Esther on the second day. The King again asked the Queen her request & gave the same offer. Esther answered “If I have found favour with you, grant my life and spare my people – this is my request. For I and my people have been sold for destruction & slaughter and annihilation. If we had merely been sold as slaves, I would have kept silent and would not have disturbed the king. The king asked “ Who is the man who dared to do such a thing ? “. Esther replied “ The adversary & enemy is this vile Haman”. The king got up in rage and went into the palace garden, while Haman stayed back with the queen pleading for his life. When the king returned, he saw Haman falling on the couch where Esther was reclining. The king said ‘Will you molest my queen while she is with me ?” Haman’s face was covered and one of the attendants informed the king about 75 feet gallows which was built by Haman for Mordecai. The king ordered to hang Haman in the same gallows.

    Q.1 When we see ever increasing evil around, what do we think? Is God not seeing it or do we trust that He is in total control of things and will bring it to end in His own Ways?

  3. childofjesus says:

    Haman was all set to destroy Mordercai after evil suggestions from his friends and wife. That night the king could not sleep and asked for the book of chronicles to be read. It was found that Mordecai had exposed two conspirators against the king but had not received any honour or recognition.
    Comment : We see here how God stirred the heart of king at the right time when the enemy Haman was conspiring to kill Mordecai.
    When the king asked Haman, what should be done for the man the king delights to honour ?
    Thinking it was him the king wants to honour, Haman replied, “ For the man the king delights to honour, have them bring a royal robe the king has worn and a horse be entrusted to one of the king’s most noble princes. Let them robe the man and lead him on the horse through the city streets, proclaiming before him “This is what is done for the man the king delights to honour! “.The king asked Haman to go at once and do everything for Mordecai.
    Comment : Mordecai, the man of God was honoured by the king at the perfect time. Mordecai, after exposing the conspirators never went about boasting his achievement or asking for any reward from the king. He remained humble.

    Q.1 How much more God will honour His Children who delight in Him ?

    After this Haman rushed home in grief and told everything to his wife and friends. They said to him “your downfall has started and you will surely come to ruin “
    Comment : Haman’s wife & friends were ‘fair weather friends’. When everything was good, they spoke good things for him but when everything turned bad, they did not comfort him rather they prophesied bad things for him.

    Q.2 What is our attitude when people of God go through tough times ?

    • Annette1016 says:

      Q1. I can never express how much God has brought me through right here and only hope that I am a friend to my neighbors as he is, I am still learning something new each day, but my growth in him has not ceased!
      Q2. I mourn with those who mourn, and have joy with those whom are in a time of Joy! We are to carry their burdens with them and fast and pray for them and to treat them as we would have ourselves treated, regardless of the problem! The creed the nation they are from!
      Annette

    • childofjesus says:

      I want to share a testimony of my friend Clara who is working for a good firm in a good position. She is a believer, however at times she says that she does’nt have time to pray b’cos of work load.
      Last month as she was driving to her office, suddenly she lost control of her car and a vehicle dashed from behind and also she was hit by another vehicle coming from the opposite direction. It was a terrible accident but she survived miraculously with only some scratches on her knee area. Her car was totally smashed. Anybody who saw it, could say that no one inside the car would have survived. But praise God, for His Mighty Hands saved her.
      That night she was not able to sleep. Those moments of accident were haunting her. She was getting thoughts that either she would have died or had lost limbs. Her mind was saying “Today, I would have died “, to which she got a thought (from God) “I have not allowed such thing. I have saved you”. After this thought she felt an amazing peace in her heart. Soon she slept deeply and in the morning she felt strong and refreshed in her spirit.
      She wanted me to share her testimony and give Glory to the Lord. Today, when she prays, her heart is filled with thankgiving for she knows how much God loves her.

  4. childofjesus says:

    After fasting for 3 days, Esther went to meet the king. He was pleased to see her,and thus her life was spared. He asked her ‘what is your request? Even upto half the kingdom, it will be given to you “. Esther did not ask for kingdom but instead she invited the king along with Haman to the banquet. As they were drinking, the king again asked Esther her request and again offered the same gift. She asked the king to come for banquet along with Haman the next day, and then she will answer the king’s question.
    Haman was very happy and in high spirits but when he saw Mordecai, he was filled with rage, however he restrained himself and went home. He called his friends & wife Zeresh and boasted of his vast wealth, his many sons and all the ways the king has honoured him above other officials & nobles. He added that even Queen Esther also honoured him by inviting him with the king. However, all these things gave him no satisfaction as long as he sees Mordecai sitting at the king’s gate. His wife & all his friends suggested to built a 75 feet gallows and ask the king in the morning to have Mordecai hanged on it. Then go and have dinner with the king and be happy. This suggestion delighted Haman and he built the gallows.
    Thought for the day :
    Q.1. What kind of friends do we have? Are their suggestions/advices in line with biblical teachings?
    I will share a small conversation which I had with my friends working for different company. They appreciated their manager for his excellent managerial skills and the reason for his success was ‘to justify your decisions, whether right or wrong, never admit that your decision was wrong, by hook or crook proof it right’. I thought this was unbiblical. We must admit our mistakes if we are wrong.
    Q.2. What makes us happy? Are we also pursuing vast wealth, great positions etc. like rest of the world?

    • Annette1016 says:

      i do have friends whom are close and very like minded, however, when I workedI had friends that thought as you spoke, and some gave very sound advice, but others, oh, look out. But when we work, we are to do all things as though we are doing it for God and not with eye or lip service. I find the more time i spend with the Lord the happier I am, but what we see as wealth may not be what the world sees as wealth and what we see as a great position may be the most unnoticable position at all. We are just opposite from the world. But we Love those who are in need of our help.

    • childofjesus says:

      I will add a testimony of a childless couple (Br. Glen & Sr. Teresa) who conduct prayers at DRC, Kerala.
      Since we did’nt have any kid during those days, I asked my husband that we attend it. We were 29 childless couples gathered there. Some were waiting even for 10-14 years to become parents. As the brother was leading the prayer, he said, out of 29 couples, God is going to bless 12 of them this year. As we were prasing & worshipping, we started praying for our needs. I was praying earnestly for us(me & my husband) to remove every fear and hindrance that is coming our way to begin our family. As I was praying, suddenly I stopped & heard the cries of other brothers & sisters crying for mercy. My heart was filled with compassion for them & I started interceding for them with tears. I cried out to Lord to increase the number from 12 to 29 and let all couples become parents. I forgot my needs and prayed only for other couples. I believe that was the day God blessed me with the gift of Intercession. We were blessed with a child that year.
      I met that wonderful couple last year in our church. They are still childless but they have kept their good faith and continuing to bring joy & hope in other childless couples.

  5. lookinforacity says:

    Is this worship?

    When meeting the Queen of England, men (Bow and women Curtsy)
    When meeting the Emperor of Japan, men & women (Bow)
    When meeting the Pope, men & women (Kneel)

    In Hebrew the word for honoring a person, such as a king or prophet is (שׁחה), which is the same word for worship of God.

    H7812
    שׁחה
    shâchâh
    shaw-khaw’
    A primitive root; to depress, that is, prostrate (especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God): – bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship.

    JIM

    • Annette1016 says:

      So you are saying??? Hey, I have never claimed to be that smart, I just have pants that are? So please are you saying that it is an act of whorship? Because that is what I am assuming you are saying here?
      Annette

      • lookinforacity says:

        Hi Annette

        First look at the heading of my post.

        Re: Mordecai’s reasoning.

        Then the three examples, with the question (Is this worship?) would he consider them as wrong also, and not bow to them either?

        Next the explanation.
        In Hebrew the word for honoring a person, such as a king or prophet is (שׁחה), which is the same word for worship of God.

        Looking up the word in the Strong’s, I found it to be (Worship), in the Hebrew thee is no other word for the act of honoring another person.

        Therefore could it be, that Mordecai considered bowing to Haman as (WORSHIP), the same as he would Worship God?

        It is more of a draw your own conclusion using this as evidence.
        Hope this clears things up for you
        JIM

        • Annette1016 says:

          I hope you knew i was not mad, As you know and as I fully told you, I kid around quite often, but I am a yes or no thinker, so things can seem complicated when they are really quite simple to others, so I would say that yes Mordecai thought that it was an act of whorship. And to anyone whom thinks that I was trying to fight or was upset, I assure you that I was not! I do kid around, but I truely am a simple True or False, Yes or No thinker. For me I do have a hard time seeing the shades of gray! So I ask others and the Lord to help me to see, So dear Jim or anyone, please take no offence, I just need my hearts eyes opened more is all! Love in Christ Jesus, Annette. thank you Jim

  6. childofjesus says:

    Where ever the king’s edict came, there was great mourning among the Jews with fasting, weeping and wailing.
    Mordecai asks Esther to go into king’s presence to beg for mercy and plead with him for the people.When Esther sent the message saying that going into king’s presence without being summoned means death, Mordecai answered back “if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance will arise from other place, but you & your family will perish. And who knows but that you have come to royal position for such a time as this? “
    Esther asks Mordecai to gather all the Jews so that they can fast for her for 3 days. She and her maids will also fast. When this is done, she will go to the king even though it is against the law. “And if I perish, I perish.”
    We see that Esther wanted her people to intercede for her before going to the king. She had faith in God and believed that if all the people cry out to Him for mercy,the king will be pleased to see Esther and grant her wish.
    Today, God’s people are scattered all over the world. And when we hear about such persecution/attacks, how should we respond? Should we unite together in prayer & fasting or think that it is not happening to my nation/family?

    • Annette1016 says:

      I let other believers know and go into prayer and when I am permitted to I fast! But intercession is such a blessing from God for we se his work in others through all of our collective prayers. It brings us closer as a body and we are citizens of Heaven, not a country, or Nation alone. We are The body of Christ and the family of God, so we should pray for all as Christ Jesus and with his Heart And mind!

    • childofjesus says:

      I am going to share two testimonies of fasting & praying here.
      In the first week of march this year, I decided to fast & pray for many days, as I had many desperate prayer petitions for my family/God’s family. I fasted by skipping one time meal. I had jotted down 20 points as petitions. The day I started fasting my Sinus became severe but I did’nt give up on fasting. I prayed earnestly for 38 days but none of my prayers were answered. On the last day ie on 38th day, my prayers had become groans. I could imagine myself laying my head on Jesus’ lap and I folded those papers in which I had written 20 points, and gave it to Jesus. The very next day when I ended my fasting, my sinus became normal (without any medicine). After a week’s time, I started seeing my prayers being answered! Praise the Lord!!

      I feel little embarrassed to share my 2nd testimony but I will share it. Not me but Jesus be exalted through it. I used to fast once in a week usually on Friday. One Friday, I had wonderful time with the Lord and I even shared it with one of my believer friend. After I spoke to my friend, I got another call from unknown number. The lady on the other end started calling me with filthy words like those used for prostitute without listening to my interruptions. I was completely shocked. I had never heard such words in my life. I told her to stop as she was not talking to the concerned person but she won’t stop. I disconnected her call. I was very angry & I wanted to repay her immediately. I wanted to make police complain against that lady. I called my husband and told about it. My husband asked me to first calm down and then said that there are hundreds of such case lying with police without result. So he indirectly asked me not to file case. But those disgusting words were still ringing in my mind and I wanted to return them back to her. So I wrote a message to that number : IN THE NAME OF JESUS, i wanted to write i curse you with all those names but as soon as i wrote ‘IN THE NAME OF JESUS, the next words were ‘I FORGIVE YOU’. At once all anger left me and peace filled my heart. I knew that moment Jesus has touched me. Tears rolled and I thanked Him for being so near to me. It was a day of fasting, when Jesus touched me so deeply.
      I will tell you in short how it ended. That lady kept calling me everyday. I was fed up of disconnecting her call. My husband asked me to take up the call but do not listen to it. Let her pay for those calls. One day my husband was at home, her call came. He picked up and asked ‘What is her problem? She told that she gets calls from my number. She said your wife has extra marital affair with my husband and has threatened me. If you want to see the proof, come and meet me. My husband told her that he knows his wife well and need no proof. Asked her not to call again. Well, the calls kept coming and since we did’nt respond, the calls finally ended.

      Husbands who believed such call, must have visited her and you yourself can think what trap was waiting for them.

  7. childofjesus says:

    Before we meditate further on Bk. of Esther, I just want to share my thoughts which were in my mind few months back. I was asking Lord to use me in His Ministry, and this website has given me an opportunity to be used in God’s Vineyard as fellow workers with all of you. Paul said in Colossians 3:23 – And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men,
    Start where you are in serving the Lord, Claim His sure promise and trust in His Word; God simply asks you to do what you can, He’ll use your efforts to further His plan. —Anon
    Young or old – God can use you if you’re willing.
    “Father in Heaven, we thank you for this beautiful fellowship. Pour out Your Holy Spirit, so that we may understand Your Word & be more like Your Son Jesus each day as we wait upon You. This we ask in most beautiful Name of Jesus…Amen.”

    Chap 2:19-23
    We see that Mordecai found out the evil plan of assassinating the king. When it was investigated and found to be true, the two conspirators were hanged on a gallows. This was recorded in the book of the annals but no reward was given to Mordecai.
    Chap 4
    Haman , the Agagite was given a seat of honour higher than all other nobles. All the royal officials knelt down and paid honour to him but Mordecai did not kneel down or pay him honour. When Haman came to know about this, he was enraged and he decided to destroy all Mordecai’s people, the Jews, throughout the whole kingdom. He told to the king that there is certain people whose customs are different from those of other people and do not obey the king’s laws. The king agreed to Haman and gave him money to destroy them. 13th day of 12th month was chosen to destroy the Jews, young and old, women & little children and to plunder all their goods.

    Q.1 Even though Mordecai asked Esther to hide her nationality, he himself revealed it. Why do you think he revealed it ?
    Q.2 Was kneeling down and paying honour like worshipping Haman?

    • Timothy Luke says:

      Its great to see this Bible study!
      Q 1 – Mordecai mentioned his nationality to explain his belief in why he did not kneel to Haman at the King’s command. Following that revelation, Haman purposed to destroy all the Jews. Esther, having the heart of Haman set against the Jews by this time, was wise to not mention her nationality and bring undue wrath upon herself. I short, there was no threat against the Jews when Mordecai revealed his nationality, so he freely did so.
      Q. 2 – I believe it was like worshipping the King, by worshipping those he sent. Haman was to be bowed to by the King’s decree.

    • Annette1016 says:

      I believe mordecai told Esther not to reveal her kindred for a reason. However, he was not ashamed nor was she, I do believe you are correct Tim, he was explaining his actions and peoples ways. Though on the second Question I do have some questions of my own, for my daughter took karate classes, and they had them bow to a picture of the man who brought the teaching to the USA and I really had a problem with that, they said it was a sign of respect, but this was a picture of a man who had been dead for over 70 years. He would not have a way to be offended. And she eventually quit because it bothered her and I so much. I believe we are to honor our King of kings with a bow, and to him we are to kneel. Yet those whom are in power and have positions in government are we not supposed to honor as he tells us to? I believe that many of you could clarify this subject for me. For I think to Mordecai bowing down would have been like whorshipping Ha’man.

      • Timothy Luke says:

        In Tae Kwan Do the disciples are taught to ‘bow to the room’. There are demonic forces in play in these ‘martial arts’. It is wrong to bow and it opens one up to spiritual interference from the ruling principality.

        • Annette1016 says:

          Good answer! And dear Jim, I kid around, but Truely am very simple, so I am not joking when I ask you to be simple when you explain, Ok thank you for your thoughtfull time and input also.
          Annette

  8. childofjesus says:

    Thank you for your valuable comments..
    I have some guest at home and i could not come for online fellowship. But i will surely get back. Since there are times when there are no comments, i thought of starting Bible Study. And once again thank you for participating.. May the Lord richly Bless us with His All Powerful Word !

  9. Sunrise says:

    Q.1. Why was it wrong if Queen Vashti did not display her beauty ? As a woman, maybe she did not feel comfortable to show herself to others ? Or was she very arrogant to accept king’s command?

    Answer: How did he want her to display her beauty? Here is what footnote 4 found in the One New Man Bible on page 1063 says: “Commentators say that the king was drunk, ordering Vashti to wear only the crown, to appear nude for all the men to see her beauty.” One can easily see how this might have been offensive and embarrassing to the queen to do such a thing. That just shows us what liquor can do to a person. It causes people to do and say things they would not ordinarily do or say if they had their senses about them. My advice: Stay away from liquor.

    Because of the king’s rash or impulsive actions, he put himself in a predicament. Queen Vashti had defied his command to come into his presence. One could only come into the king’s presence when asked to come. To refuse to come could mean possible death. This dilemma caused him to have to depose the queen to save face before the men in his kingdom and to discourage other wives from defying their husbands.

    2. How would have Queen Esther reacted to the same command?

    Answer: I can only speculate on that. If I had been her, I would have sent a message back to the king like this: “I would be more than happy to come before the king’s presence if he will allow me to wear some apparel along with the crown. My nakedness should be for the eyes of my lord, the king, only.” At least it would not be an outright refusal to come. It would be more diplomatic. If that didn’t work, then I would try to seek a private audience with the king to discuss his request.

  10. childofjesus says:

    Summary of Chapter 2
    Mordecai’s cousin Esther was lovely in form & features. She did not reveal her family background to others as instructed by Mordecai. She was obedient to his command. Also she won favour of Hegai who was in charge of harem. As a result, immediately Hegai provided her beauty treatments, special food, seven maids and best place in harem. Later, we see how she pleased the king by following Hegai’s instructions and Esther was made queen.
    Here we see that Esther ‘s obedience finally led her to become the Queen.
    Q.1 Can today’s Christian go for beauty treatment ? or is it a fleshly desire ?
    I have personal experience that my friends (non Christian/Christian), who spend on beauty treatment & special diet look much younger than me. Is it ok for believers to be careful with their outer appearance ?

    • Annette1016 says:

      I find that with myself, the more I let Jesus shine inside, the less I need those treatments. Make up and things do hurt my skin. We do wear nice clothes, but for some, the outside does reflect the way they feel inside. And as women, we tend to see what the world says is attractive, and judge ourselves by that standard. we never stop and realize that God is our Judge and he says we are worth his very best, he gave his dearest son as our ransom so we are beautiful to Him! That says so much to Me!

    • lookinforacity says:

      Hi Childofjesus

      Concerning Christian women and beauty treatments

      1Co_6:12
      All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

      1Co_10:23
      All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

      1Ti 2:9,10
      9) In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
      10) But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

      Php_4:5
      Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

      Paul continually tells us, whatsoever things you do, do all things in moderation, do not be brought under the power of any, do not give into the vanity of the flesh, making the things we do as gods.

      Jesus said
      Mat_15:11
      Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

      Mat 15:17-20
      17) Whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
      18) But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
      19) For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
      20) These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

      I feel in like manner Jesus says,
      Whatsoever things are applied to the outside of the body, these do not defile the woman.
      Whatsoever woman calling herself a child of God keeps herself in purity, the adorning of the body means nothing, a woman is not defiled by the things she puts on, but by those things which proceed out of her mouth, for those things come forth from the heart.

      We as humans can and do make all kinds of things as laws for ourselves to follow, we are not better for the doing, and not worse for the failing to do, but in ourselves we condemn ourselves.

      As an example of how man places laws upon himself, laws which God has not imposed upon us, look at the Rabbinic Laws, God Gave “Ten Commandments” as moral laws, these are the laws which we as Christians still do follow, but the Rabbinic laws have exploded into 613.

      As explained to me personally, by a Hasidic Orthodox Jew, as he beamed with pride over his laws.
      In the Ten Commandments, there is one which says,

      Exo 20:8-11
      8.) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
      9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
      10) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
      )11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

      Exo 31:12-17
      12) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
      13) Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
      14) Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
      15) Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
      16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
      17) It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

      He then went on to explain how the Rabies have taken this Law as handed down from God himself, and expounded upon it in this manner,

      God has said there should be no work done on the Sabbath day, but the Rabies have said.
      The night before the Sabbath, all paper and pencils (pens) should be placed out of sight because these are instruments used in work, and if you so much as touch them on the Sabbath you have committed sin.

      We all know that God was saying, whatsoever you do as employment, take a rest from, cease from your labors one day a week, as I did from mine when I created the earth.

      To paraphrase Solomon if I may
      Ecc_12:12
      And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

      It is within mans innate nature, to make laws for himself, any law which we set up for ourselves, we will ultimately break, falling under the power of the law, for the making of many laws is wearisome to the flesh.

      Take a look at our judicial system, how many different degrees of killing (Murder) are there, when God said “Thou Shalt Not Kill”

      Mankind cannot keep Laws, that is what God taught us by giving the Law

      Gal_3:24,25
      24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
      25) But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

      In closing, God gave us the “Ten Commandments”, these constitute the Moral Law, any law which we can devise, if they do not fall under the Authority of the Moral Law, then they will not send you to Hell.

      Paul said it best
      1 Cor. 10:23
      All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

      The answer to your question then is, go do whatever you feel you need to do as far as a beauty treatment, don’t crucify yourself over it, and don’t let others do it either.

      All Paul ever said, was for the women to be modest in whatsoever they did, no law against, no sin committed.

      Be Blessed in whatsoever you do
      JIM

    • lookinforacity says:

      Hi Childofjesus

      Est 1:16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen hath not done wrong to the king only, but also to all the princes, and to all the people that are in all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus.
      Est 1:17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, when it shall be reported, The king Ahasuerus commanded Vashti the queen to be brought in before him, but she came not.
      Est 1:20 And when the king’s decree which he shall make shall be published throughout all his empire, (for it is great,) all the wives shall give to their husbands honour, both to great and small.

      We see from scripture what Vashti did, we can speculate as to the reasons of he doing what she did, but that does not answer the question.
      She thwarted, or stood against the wishes and the Authority of the King as Supreme, by so doing, she placed his Authority in jeopardy, where anyone could then refuse to do what the King said, because Vashti did and lived, so I can to, a weakening of his kingdom so to speak.
      Esther said herself, If I go into the King without being called by him I shall be killed, even being the Queen.
      She respected the Authority of the King.

      What we see from the entire book of Esther, is that God beforehand had placed Esther into the house of Mordecai in order for her to be chosen to be Queen by King Ahasuerus, which would benefit the Jewish people which were in captivity.
      We see this in the Jewish festival of Purim, when God delivered His people out of the hand of their enemy Haman. Which is still observed today by the Jews.
      Everything which took place, was all under the control of God, the same as when Joseph was sold into captivity, it was all done beforehand for the benefit of the Jewish people, Gods’ Chosen people.
      It is therefore irrelevant what or why people did things, it was not what they did which caused the outcome to be the way it was, but God only, remember God hardened the heart of Pharaoh to accomplish His purpose.

      Q.1. Why was it wrong if Queen Vashti did not display her beauty ?
      Q.2. How would have Queen Esther reacted to the same command ?

      Q1) It was not wrong for Vashti, she simply defied the Authority of the King.
      Q2) Esthers response is a moot point, once you understand the outcome of the story, she would have never been placed into the same situation, she was Gods’ chosen vessel for that particular moment in Jewish history, just as Mary would become a chosen vessel for the coming of the Messiah.

      JIM

    • Sunrise says:

      Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. I think our “temple” should look the best that it can. But, we, as Christian women, should not let our outward appearance be our main focus. We should put more time and emphasis on our inner being. The more we conform to the image of God’s Son, the more beautiful our inner being will become. This kind of beauty will last for eternity.

    • lookinforacity says:

      There are Denominations which strictly follow the Doctrine of no makeup, and not cutting the hair to such an extent, that the not doing of these things has become just as much a point of pride as doing them would be.
      As though they stood on a street corner with a bell.

      Just because a women would go for beauty treatments, does not necessarily mean she is going to neglect her time reading or studying, any more than a person who believes once saved always saved, is going to go and sin because the can.

      It comes down to knowledge, not just doctrine, because there isn’t any law which says the wearing of makeup is sin, and could send you to hell.
      We have been freed from everything except the moral law.
      Any women back in those days, would be considered a Harlot for the wearing of makeup, it was because of the appearance of impropriety the statements by Paul were made.

      Paul said we should not be so religious, as to judge others for the things they allow, things which God has given knowledge on, that they are not wrong.
      On the other hand, Paul said that those with the knowledge and the freedom, should not flaunt that freedom in front of others just because they have it, and possably making them to fall.

      The question then in relation to the question of wearing makeup or getting beauty treatments, would be.
      How are these things accepted within the congregation to which you belong?
      If they have the knowledge, then they would not be offended.
      The knowledge is, we should do all things as though we lived unto the Lord.

      Rom 14:1-23
      1) Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
      2) For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
      3) Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
      4) Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
      5) One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
      6) He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
      7) For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
      8.) For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.
      9) For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
      10) But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
      11) For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
      12) So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
      13) Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.
      14) I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
      15) But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
      16) Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
      17) For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
      18) For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
      19) Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
      20) For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
      21) It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
      22) Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
      23) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

      JIM

    • Annette1016 says:

      modesty is important though, for an immodest woman is like a pig with a gold ring through its nostrils. Being careful with our appearence, can be taken in so many ways, but what I think we all agree on is that if the Holy Spirit is not forbidding you from doing it, and you see no harm in it, than I see no harm. But to be carefull what you believe. I believe that the Holy Spirit Quickens us, so we do become stronger physically, and spiritally. There are some men who will tell you that some women Should wear make up. Yet it is a personal choice and how you feel about it personally. I find your heart beautiful, thoug I have never seen you Shanta, I am certain that shows your beauty quire well but if you feel anyway insecure there, you know the lord will wipe away those scars. I also know many people that find flaws in others beautiful, because they show the fight they may have been through!

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