Tithing

Hie guys I used to believe in tithing but through reading the bible I feel that we as new testament believers are not obliged to tithe but to give offerings cheerfully.
I also think that ithing makes some people proud (especially if some in the church do not tithe)
How do you see it?
Tithe was mearnt for the Levites because they did not have land.
Malachi accused the Priest of robbing God not the people.

What do YOU think?

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  1. Kudakwash,

    I suggest you read the entire books of Deuteronomy, Leviticus and Numbers compare it to what Jesus said about money. Mark them with a yellow marker. Don’t let human emotions and reasoning get the better of you. The fact is: Who is going to pay the bills ? How are you going to have an organized church presence ?

    God says this:
    “Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How do we rob you?’ “In tithes and offerings.”
    http://bible.cc/malachi/3-8.htm
    Malachi 3:8

    We should not be selective in our memory of what Jesus wanted.
    Read Luke 18:19 “As he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins.
    “I tell you the truth,” he said, “this poor widow has put in more than all the others.
    All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.” NOTICE: Jesus was pleased that She gave EVERYTHING she had in FAITH. Not half or 10%. He didn’t say she gave to much. He didn’t think the rich gave too little. He was please she acted in faith.

    Remember the rich young ruler ? Read: Luke 18:19
    Jesus asked him to sell everything and come follow him.
    That seemed to be a reasonable request according to Jesus. But the rich young ruler thought Jesus was asking for too much.
    It’s the same thing, we should be ready to give as much as we possibly can, to help further the gospel if asked. NOTICE: Jesus was very sad that the rich young ruler refused to give 100% in faith since he professed to have such a GREAT faith. The concept is the same.

    Problem:
    Some churches have pastors who roll in luxary and seem to be filling their pockets with money.

    Solution
    Seventh Day Adventist pastors are paid a standard normal salary. Everything else is used to fund religious universities, build churches, build orphanages. fund missionaries. Every 5 years, pastors move to a different church within their district. No pastor worship

    Problems:
    Some people like to give loads of money to boast about how rich they are. Unfortunately, some church members feel badly about this.

    Solution
    Require that church members give money in envelopes. That way, no one knows how much your giving. It’s between you, your pastor and God. Or you can give anonymously, don’t write your name on the envelope. That is what they do in the Seventh Day Adventist Church.

    God does want us to give cheerfully.
    1. 10% in tithes – this is mandetory.
    2. Our offerings can be 10% or more. ( The bible does specifies who much it should be)

    Every single day, God give us life, sunshine and air to breath. If we want to be like him, giving will be part of our life.

    Malachi 3:8
    “Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.”
    http://bible.cc/malachi/3-10.htm

  2. We are obliged to tithe.

    Jesus paid Taxes. He went to church on Saturday. He did everything the law required. He just didn’t go overboard.

    “Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.”
    http://bible.cc/malachi/3-10.htm

    Up to you…

  3. I live near a road called Tithe Barn Lane. The church is still there, in fact there are three surrounding a very small square of what used to be a village but the barn is long gone.

  4. Timothy Luke says:

    Hi KKarupa,

    I find my balance for the topic of tithing in 1 Corinthians 9. Paul tells the church that he has the right to ask tithes of the congregation, but did not so as not to cause them to stumble. This tells me that church leaders have the right to ask tithes of their congregations, should they so choose. If your pastor teaches tithing and he is feeding you spiritual things, what is it in comparison, to sow physically into his ministry? He is well within his rights.

    If one disagrees with him on that issue and will not receive his instruction on it, what else is he teaching that one may disagree on? If I am not in agreement in a number of areas, and will not receive correction from him where he as a shepherd and bishop of my soul, and is obligated to speak into my life according to his conscience and his relationship with the Lord, perhaps the Lord would have me seek a congregation who understands the Word more like I do in good conscience.

    I tithe, but I am not judgmental. Is it possible to not tithe and then judge those who tithe? I think so. So, the judgmentalism of tithers is a people factor, not a factor one would use to determine the validity of a doctrine. This is to say a critical spirit does not prove nor disprove a doctrine. Catholics judge protestants. Does that make Catholicism wrong of an by itself? Protestants judge Catholics. Does that make Protestantism wrong?

    The Church would not have land either. If we desire a New Testament model for funding ministry, lets sell all we possess and put it in a common fund.

    God honors our faith. I have heard many tithing testimonies of God’s provision when people tithe in faith, not fear. Perhaps that is the key. If we tithe in fear it is sin (for whatsoever is not of faith is sin). If we tithe in faith, it is accounted unto us as righteousness. (for righteousness is by faith).

    I hope that helps clarify. You brought up a great topic. Thanks for posting it!

    Blessings and peace to you,
    Tim

    • I Thank you very much for an inciting reply.I think God have used you to clarify something to me.You know I have been having many questions about this topic ,when I read the bible I felt that we are no longer compelled to tithe since we are not under the Mosaic law. (but I think under the moral law).I also read in Corinthians that God loves a cheerful giver.Well I prayed to God to clarify it to me,I do not recall how many people I heard talking the importance of tithing after my asking .They taught about it at church , i heard it on radio and on TV .I was not really sure whether it was God talking to me or the devil trying to confuse me.

      So thank you for the reply I really liked when you talked about giving in faith anot in fear.Unfortunately I think most people tithe in fear because the Pastors do not teach the subject very well.
      Thank You and Stay Blessed.
      In the name of Christ
      Kudakwashe Karupa.

    • Well Site ,

      I have always found full time preachers stress on Tithing.
      10% , no more no less.

      At this point , most in the congregation get an un-easy feeling.

      I dont know how many of you have felt that way.

      I am not sure how many actually do give 10%.

      Furthur , some may not give too much , ….and some may stop coming to the
      service altogether.

      I do feel ,…… that if the amount specified was something more reasonable ,
      like 1 or 2 % , …..a lot more people would give more than what they give
      currently ,…and give they would give it joyfully.

      In my view , ….a lot more people would come to services too.

      So by reducing the percentage , …..may be the collections would
      go up , ….and the preacher would have more.

      (Here in India , the income tax for the highest bracket used to be
      60% , …and hardly anybody used to pay.
      The government reduced it to 35% ,…and collections sky-rocketed.)

      Any of you think that this is workable ?

      I know some of you are going to say ,
      10 % is mandated under the Law in Deutronomy.

      But our Lord and Master , Jesus said in
      Luke 16:16 ,”The law and the prophets [were] until John”

      Would any of you agree with me ,
      or enlighten me differently ?

      Cheers

      Vijay

      • jesseedavis says:

        Don’t give away the secret!! lol You know, greediness has brought Christianity at least in this and many other areas to a standstill if you will. For the love of money is the root of all evil…why is it that even at Bible-believing churches there is a certain aura about the tithe and offering? If there isn’t a sermon about it at least once every other month, if not more than that, than a good section of quite a number of sermons are spent towards hinting at the offering/tithe, or even when it is talked about at some other time during the services, it is always a sense of give, give, give. Hmmmm…don’t go around telling others this bit of information or maybe the Church would possibly lose its focus on all the money and finance and start paying attention to more important areas, like, for example, the people giving the money maybe?

        Just a thought. (Please note the sarcasm…:) )

      • Timothy Luke says:

        1 Corinthians 9 shows us that the apostle Paul had the right to ask the tithe, but he also had the right to not ask it. I have asked for nothing for my services to the Christian believers. The Lord blesses people through me, yet I receive nothing. This means I have people pay me money to clean windows (an eternally worthless item) and pay nothing for things that are eternally priceless. This leaves me having to spend my time on eternally worthless things to provide for my family and severely limits my time availability to answer questions, pray for people and minister and instruct in righteousness.

        Let’s not judge others for asking for the tithe, when they have the right to do so. Tithe means tenth. You cannot change the percentage and have it a tithe. It is a misnomer. God honors our faith. If you give a tenth in faith, God will honor you.

      • actually ministers stress more on tithing because they might be scared of their living. Instead if they truly trust God in this and guide people in God then there is no need for giving so much importance to such things. Tithing is something given by the jews to the priests. i believe tithing is not compulsory for new testament believers. If so some one compels : Christ is the High priest according to new covenant and whatever is done to the least of those is done to him. Most of the time we give or want to give 10% from what we have because we don’t know how much to start from or how much to give.Bro.Timothy has given a good answer.
        The government has reduced the tax just because it wanted to increase the collection. because of this Many will pay tax, but only for the fact that it is a law. Giving to God should not be driven like this. Because God accepts anything that is given whole heartedly. If the ministers decrease the amount to certain percent in order to increase the offering or the people give joyfully because the percentage that they should give has been reduced then there is something wrong in the intentions of both sides. It would be better if the ministers lead them to give whole heartedly rather than train them to give the specified amount, which will be more fruitful before God.

    • James Jordan says:

      The problem with some who say Paul could receive the tithe is the fact that Paul was from the Tribe of Benjamin (Romans 11:1), so he could not receive what was called the tithe, nor could Jesus seeing that He was from the Tribe of Judah. Only the sons of Levi, or the Levites could receive the tithe. In the context of what Paul was saying in 1 Cor 9, he was talking about a free-will offering between one church to another. Paul, Peter, Jesus, or any of the other apostles could not receive the tithe. To another point, in Mark 12 when Jesus was pointing out the old woman who gave her two mites; you have to look at it from the context of what He was talking about. Jesus was talking about the scribes and Pharisees who prey on the poor Mark 12:40), the widows, and the orphans. He said numerous times, “Woe to the Scribes and Pharisee.” It was in this context that Jesus pointed out the the widow woman who was a victim to the very corrupt religious leaders He just called snakes and sons of snakes. Notice in Mar 12:40 how Jesus said that they devour “widows houses;” that sounds like a lot of the prosperity preachers today. The next time you are looking at a TV preacher, look at the small amount they ask their followers to give. I heard a preacher ask the audience to pledge $58 a month to his ministry. Now for someone making a lot of money, that’s chump change, but someone on social security that is the difference between medicine and some food. Which one of them ask for 1 million dollars (on TV)? No one, because rich people can’t be taken by the message that God wants to bless them financially (they are already financially well off), but the widow or the single mother on welfare will buy into it. These are the very people Jesus and the Bible describes as wolves who fleece the sheep.

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