Hello there,
Can we discuss something about rapture timing?
I’m till now believing and I was of course believing pre-trib.You know what? I found that there is post trib and even mid-trib.I found that Michael is pre-trib.That make me research about it(of course i’m still doing it).What i have found is many are Just defending their opinions (especially post tribs guys).That have hindred me to understand their point in biblical realm.It have been a debate throughout times.But I always hate those type of debate and I don’t want to start one here.I want to Learn what is true from scripture.I know ther are possibility of having post-pre trib guys(as me and Michael).The beatiful thing about christians is that they disagree for sometime then they agree when they find what is true.And I believe this is what is going to happen if we will be honest.I don’t want to convert anybody to pre trib but I want to know what is true.
Can anybody put total time table as the guys at truthnet has done so as someone can know timing for everything that Lord have kept open for us

don’t worry rapture won’t take you to lake of fire

What do YOU think?



  1. Thanks Pshrader,and Tim
    What I mean by Man die and come back is not the case of ressurection.That one can be resurrected I believe!
    My question is about peolpe claim to die and come back(sounding to me as they rise from dead)From what i know only Jesus died and rose again.I wonder about them and that’s why I ask If there is something from scripture I don’t know about the situation

    —-you love Jesus? Serve Him——-

    • I have heard that catholics who have afterlife experiences speak of seeing Mary and others of ‘going into the light. Other faith beliefs see the objects of their beliefs. I believe there is only one reality after death and the variance of experience must not be from the one true God.’

      Others have given great detail about being in heaven and people they have seen. Some of these such a Jesse DuPlantis I found to be ridiculous in description based on faulty interpretations of scripture and vivid imagination.

      I do not believe these things are more than demonic apparitions. I would not bet my life on it, or call a man a liar, but I will not stake my theology on it either…

      If we obey the Lord our God, we will find out the truth soon enough.




  2. Pastor_Tim says:

    1. What happens to the spirit of man when one dies
    (simple about soul and body)

    Ecc 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
    Ecc 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

    2.What is heaven and hell

    Heaven is where God lives and rules. One day that will be on earth. Hell is one word with three biblical meanings:

    1-Gehenna = lake of fire. Named for the valley of Hinnom where the children were passed through the fire to false gods in Jeremiah’s day. Was a city dump where the most evil criminals’ bodies were burned.

    2-Sheol[heb] Hades[grk] = the grave, the pit of burial.

    3-Tartaroo = place of restraint, bottomless pit for evil angels.

    3. what is the difference between hell and lake of fire

    See Note Above

    4.Can man die and come back again (ref Hebrews 9:27)

    Of course. Read Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
    Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.



  3. evstevemd says:

    I have not dug deepon this subject in my bible,but i want to learn on somebody who have knowledge of it.To simplest form, I will put it in the Question form

    1. What happens to the spirit of man when one dies
    (simple about soul and body)

    2.What is heaven and hell

    3. what is the difference between hell and lake of fire

    4.Can man die and come back again (ref Hebrews 9:27)

    ——you love Jesus? Serve Him——-

    • I want to take a shot at answering you questions since this is something that I researched recently. I had different people telling me different things about what happens immediately after you die so I went to the ultimate authority on the subject; Scripture.

      What happens to the spirit of man when one dies?

      When a true believer in Christ dies he or she is immediately judged and taken to Heaven to be with Jesus. 2 Cor 5:6-8 “Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. We live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.” So to be away from the body is to be with Jesus in Heaven. In Luke, Jesus tells the thief on the cross “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise”. Jesus, in telling the story of the rich man and Lazarus, tells us Lazarus was immediately taken to be with Abraham and the rich man went to hell.

      What is heaven and hell and what is the difference between hell and lake of fire?

      The Bible does not give us a detailed description of Heaven because it is beyond our realm of reasoning. We don’t have anything on earth to compare it too. Jesus tells us in John 3:12 “I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?” Paul tells us in 2nd Corinthians 12:4 that he “was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.” One thing we do know is that we will be with the Lord and it will be a wonderful and infinitely better than the alternative.

      Hell is like a holding cell for prisoners who are awaiting trial. Everyone who is not in Christ when they die go to hell awaiting the Great White Throne Judgment. They rich man begs Abraham to send Lazarus to dip his finger in water and cool his tongue because he was tormented in the flame. So Hell doesn’t sound like a very nice place.

      Jesus throws the beast and false prophet in the lake of fire upon his return. One thousand years later Satan is thrown into the lake of fire. Then comes the Great White Throne Judgment were the dead are raised and whoever’s name is not written in the book of life is thrown into the lake of fire. We are told in Revelations chapter twenty that they will be tormented forever and ever. So the lake of fire doesn’t sound like a very nice place either.

      Can a man die and come back again?

      The answer to that question is yes and no. We see several examples in Scripture of prophets, Jesus and his Apostles raising people from the dead. Jesus also rose from the dead. So, yes a man can die and come back again. No in the case of reincarnation, Heb 9:27 “Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment.”

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