Interpreting the Flooding Disasters in Queensland

The State of Queensland is extremely damaged overall. Here's a report with some photos of what is going on in Brisbane alone. Its really hard to comprehend just how much of the state's infrastructure all over this huge place is down. Just to get an idea, take a look at this list of roads that are down or damaged. All over the state.

The amazing thing is that very few people, Christians included, seem to be asking if God is saying anything through this. That's my perception right now. The church leaders in my view seem ill-prepared to interpret these events in a way that makes sense. i've talked with only a few, they are kind of phlegmatic about it in general.

There's the thought that "we'll bounce back, we're resilient, we're Queenslanders". We're getting that from our political leaders, and a dose of positive thinking usually does some good. But for thinking Christians, certain questions remain.

Were these events:

  • Caused by God as a kind of judgement? (Romans 1:18)
  • Tolerated and permitted by God because He has been ignored lately (or for some time now)?
  • Caused by the devil as "god of this world", but the church has been too weak or ignorant concerning spiritual authority to effectively stop it? (Refer to the storm the disciples faced which Jesus rebuked).
  • Caused by the laws of physics with God looking on remotely as a distant observer? (i.e. floods are just one of those things which happens every so often, they come and go, God just lets them run their course).

You'll get all 4 theories from Christian leaders and people in general. Perhaps there are other approaches also. I haven't heard a lot of urgency, a lot of calls to urgent prayer, that sort of thing. Maybe its too early for that and they will come. I hope so. I'm sure there will be some kinds of charity activities, but where are we as a PROPHETIC PEOPLE? Are we even on the map?

Our political leaders are referring to "Mother Nature" a lot, and what "she" can do. Delightful. No honor to God here.

Of course churches will send in grief counselors and packets of food to those worst hit. These things are good. But in the eternal perspective, what can be said?

Over the years, at least in the Pentecostal church, God has been presented pretty much as the author of "lifestyle enhancement". Sin has been viewed pretty much in terms of something that leads to bad lifestyle consequences, and Jesus' sacrifice has been seen in terms of a necessary step to return us to the Garden of Eden more or less.

When bad stuff happens, it is often viewed as "an attack of the enemy". Few pentecostals would talk in terms of the displeasure of an offended God. So people will be saying that these floods have been an attack of Satan on the people of Queensland. The church then is seen as a group which joins its hands in co-operation with civil authorities to alleviate human suffering. I am glad that the church is doing that. I am very thankful that we ourselves have not faced total loss, and if we had, we would be grateful for all assistance from State and church. My question is: is this all just "par for the course", "part of life", or is there a message from God in this?

Could our society be under judgement from God for abandoning certain norms that we as a society no longer care about, but God does? Does the fact that we are in significant measure a nation of fornicators and adulterers led by a pro-abortion atheistic woman in a de-facto relationship enter into the equation? Or is that totally irrelevant to the discussion? How about society's recent pro-homosexual legislating? Does it matter to God, or am I being a bigot for even mentioning the idea?

Toowoomba is on a mountain range and was recently DEVASTED by flash flooding where 6 inches of rain fell in 30 minutes. Could the fact that (as I learned from my accountant in Canberra) a recently fallen Christian City Church pastor from Canberra just recently took up residence in Toowoomba with his partner in adultery have anything to do with this storm which has been described as "supernatural" by one public figure? Or is that kind of irrelevant also? Was the devil just whipping up trouble for the worthy citizens of Toowoomba? Or was it one of those chance things, as in "That's life. Stuff happens".

Do we serve the same God today who caused the whole Israelite army to fall before a small army because of the sin of one man, Achan?

Or is that just an Old Covenant thing, with no lesson to teach us New Covenant believers in this day and age?

How do we interpret verses such as the following:


Romans 1:18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

Rom 1:20  For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
Rom 1:21  because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Is there still a wrath of God which acts in the affairs of earth? Or did all the wrath of God already fall on Jesus, so all this stuff is actually the wrath of Satan? Does Satan wield such awesome power?

 

How about this passage?

2Pe 2:4  For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;
2Pe 2:5  and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;
2Pe 2:6  and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
2Pe 2:7  and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked
2Pe 2:8  (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)—
2Pe 2:9  then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,

This passage suggests that God will take extreme measures when a society gives itself over to what GOD calls sexual immorality. (We call it being partners, being gay, or whatever).

What do they sing in Revelation 15?

Rev 15:3  They sing the song of Moses, the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying: "Great and marvelous are Your works, Lord God Almighty! Just and true are Your ways, O King of the saints!
Rev 15:4  Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name? For You alone are holy. For all nations shall come and worship before You, For Your judgments have been manifested."

On the other hand I take note of Scriptures such as Luke 13:4-5, where Jesus is talking about disasters that happen to people.

Luke 13:4  Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luke 13:5  I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."

 

I do not wish to be so dogmatic on these issues that I cannot learn. I hope all others will have the same attitude of wanting to learn.

I DO want to be faithful to the Word of God in interpreting the significant events that happen in our nation. I do not want to presume that just because I can think up an explanation that sounds plausible, I must have the mind of God on the issue.

What do others think?

What do YOU think?

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  1. Thank you, Michael.

    I thank God for your integrity and courage in bringing these issues to the light.

    We sympathize with the flood victims in Australia. We also sympathize with the victims in Brazil. We feeling sorry for the misfortune you are facing. But, as people of God, we should not attack each other in time of greater need for reconciliation and unity in the house of the Lord. Furthermore, don’t forget that, the enemy is going to use our division to distort the message of God to the world.

    TY

  2. Thanks for posting this discussion.

  3. It will get worse and worse until CHRIST returns. More earthquakes that will blow your mind. More tsunamis. Nuclear bombs in South Korea, Paris and San Francisco. The United States war with the world. You will see it in your life time and SOON. Remember these words of this crazy Christian gdcgray. These words will stay with you for ever now that you have read them. They are the words of GOD. This is the time for individual repentance you must repent now, this instant. But time for this world is over. Turn to JESUS CHRIST of NAZARETH now, read the bible from front to back, again and again, take the communion everyday, go into your prayer closet and PRAY AND PRAY AND PRAY for you are going to need to do this to survive the days that are coming upon you, Here comes Islam, did you hear me? Here comes Islam to kill you, mark my words for the days of this little planet are done, the days of man are done, the days of man’s church are over, repent and turn to the SON of the most high GOD, the LORD JESUS CHRIST and seek him with all that you have, and go out and get your brothers and sisters in the streets, you have no more time. If you mock my servant, you will remember these words as you fall into the abyss of hell for that is where you will go if you don’t heed the words of your GOD through my servant. You will remember these words forever for I the LORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS have burned them into your heart and your mind forever. Your FATHER in heaven loves you and with tears I call you to myself, to my SON JESUS CHRIST of NAZARETH, I will give you my SPIRIT, I will help you but you must stop your sinning and do what I said for nothing dirty, nothing unclean can be with me and time is over for man. Here comes my SON, here He comes Here comes my SON. Hear the word of your FATHER, most will perish, most will reject my words, so remember what my servant said at the beginning of this note and you will know that the LORD your GOD has spoken to you this day and this hour, so says The LORD, the FATHER with the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT, with the tears of GOD. So be it, So be it, So be it.

    • Redbuck40 says:

      Is this meant to be a prophesy?

      “Remember these words of this crazy Christian gdcgray. These words will stay with you for ever now that you have read them. They are the words of GOD.”

      I don’t understand…is gdcgray saying he is God?

      “If you mock my servant, you will remember these words as you fall into the abyss of hell for that is where you will go if you don’t heed the words of your GOD through my servant.”

      Mock no, question yes.

      It doesn’t seem to add up.

    • How do you know when the Lord has spoken to you? Just wondering…
      Grace and Peace to you,
      Beloved

      • Redbuck40 says:

        The way I know is that either he confirms it in scripture, or by fellow servants. I will not accept a verse out of context. Like the man wanted to know if he should buy some shop or not (true story) and tried to claim “I have many blessing in STORE for you.”

        In regard to the prophecy about the flood I especially went to one friend (Spirit-filled having the gift of knowledge) and a host of others, most said I had heard from God. Some refused to pray because they didn’t want to believe it.

        Finally I started to pray about what to do with it, how should I send it. I asked my friend to pray and by the afternoon he said “said it to the government!” The very words I received in prayer.

        So far I have seen little forerunners, is this flood little? Could be. Father has not told me one way or the other. It could have been bigger. It was big for those in it, but on the grand scale of this nation, it only was small.

      • Hi Beloved,I would love it if the Lord would speak in a big booming voice from Heaven, but unfortunately He dosent seem to do that too often.  However, He does speak to us all the time.  Sometimes it’s through other people giving us a message and you just have that sense that this is an answer.  Sometimes through scripture, it seems that words jump off the page at you and once agian the Spirit of God gives you that feeling inside that this is right.  Of course God speaks through dreams, just as He did in Bible days, although those dreams are in ‘dream language’ and you can ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding, and He will.  God also speaks to us in our head.  He uses our own voice.  Sometimes it’s not even a whisper, but a wisp.  It can be very fleeting.  Listening takes practise.  I have quite a strong UK accent, even after living in Australia for nearly 30 years.  If I rang you I might have to say who I was for the first few times, but after that you would start to recognise my voice and I wouldnt have to say who I was anymore.  That’s just like when you learn to hear the Lord.  At first you don’t recognise it, but with practise and lots and lots of help from the Holy Spirit, you will and learn to step out more and more.  God is very good at speaking, we arent so crash hot at listening.Hope that was helpful.Just ask The Helper, He loves to help us.Blessings, Jane.

        • Hi, I have just bought a book called 4 Keys to hearing God’s voice by Mark & Patti Virkler. To listen to God i pray and then sit in silence and then images come forward to me, this is usually Jesus he will walk into the room and show me things or give me a scripture to look up. The book is awesome a real help, there are also CD’s that you can purchase but these are extra. I am new to this but i believe it is different for everyone and it also says in the book that God can adjust to the easiest way for you to understand him. Here is what it says in the book:-
          1. Stillness – sit by yourself in silence
          2. Vision – pictures should come into your mind first
          3. Spontaneity – these are more like feelings or a small voice
          4. Journaling – write down what you see, feel, hear

          So instead of praying set prayers try to have a conversion with your Father. Hope this helps, as i say i am still new to this. Shaun.

  4. TO BELIEVERS/CHRISTIANS
    Concerning Australia And The Floods
    Many of us are too far awayand too broke to help someone way over in Australia.
    Let us remember to leave God’s posture with Him and not adopt a harsh posture toward the victims of these devastating floods. It may be judgment, but that does not mean we have the right to adopt the posture of God.
    Let us pray and comfort where we can. Anyone can sit on the seat of the scorner. Who can bring the love of Christ?

    There is one judge and it is not us, let us not pour vinegar in the wounds of our neighbor. We are called as ambassadors to reconcile men to God. God will handle the shake ups. We still must be in the rescue business. These things will hit our nation and our city too. Then we will know how these folk feel when ten thousand Christians in dry clothes and warm homes with all there stuff take a harsh compassion-less posture pointing and saying repent. Repent is good, maybe if we said it more when we were supposed to, this could have been avoided. We ought to be on our face in tears taking responsibility for that which we deserve as much as anybody.

    Remember Nehemiah. He rebuilt, he took responsibility for the sins of others and held himself as though he were guilty. He didn’t point, he led by example in all humility with hammer and trowell in hand. Let the prophets speak Gods words and the rest of should know, we are next, we are no less guilty than anyone else. In fact Christians are in for worse for where were you that things have come to this point? You with the light will be judged more harshly than those with out it. Those who won’t shed tears for others will shed tears for themselves.

    Humility is required from all of us.

    • Redbuck40 says:

      For those who have been bless in some way to at least see some insight into how Father thinks, we would know that he is angry. The proof of his anger is shown to us everyday in the papers, TV and radio. We see proof of his anger on the roads, when talking to our neighbours, or going to work. We see this proof but what do we say? Most times we either say nothing or at best blog about it.

      All the years that we call Australia has been living in Father’s anger. But do we call them to repentance? Not much anymore. There are some but they are put down or called a “broken record” because they would dare to plead with this people to repent.

      And when a moment comes along, such as this disaster, we are told we cannot even have the stance of Jesus! Why are they stopping us? What is more compassionate, helping them rebuild a house or saving them from a Godless eternity?

      When Jesus was told about a disaster what was his response?

      “Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell, and killed them, do you think that these were sinners beyond all men who lived in Jerusalem? No, I say to you, But if you do not repent, you will all perish likewise.”
      (Luk 13:4-5)

      Today I have been accused of being unmerciful, non-compassionate, and unloving, just because I dared to say that this flood is a call for repentance. I believe that this flood is NOT judgement, it IS a warning. If our God and Father would take the time to cause so much damage in such short time, with such little loss of life, why should we be stopped from stating the obvious? Father is calling you to repent.

      I ask you, should we obey man instead of God?

    • citytaker says:

      Thank you

      The only sensible reply I have heard

      Every one of us are sinners saved by Grace…. not by judgement but by Grace

      For God so loved the world He sent His son Jesus. This love was a covenant unending love, and because of His love He sent ( not floods and earthquakes) He sent Jesus

      I am in the midst of these floods and honestly this site has sickened me, I think of all of you screaming repentance but lets be honest all of you are sinners.

      Jesus said He who is without sin cast the first stone…. and as all of you are casting stones then if you are without sin why are you still here and not walking the way of Enoch

      You are sinners saved by GRACE

      And each of you every minute of the day have the opportunity and do sin so the very thing you are screaming for the people of the nation to do you yourself are in desperate need of

      Humility is the key

      Lets stop asking ‘why’ it is a hole that leads to dissentions and hell itself let us ask however how we can be solutions in our Nations

      How can I help when the rain falls on the just and the unjust

      We have lost much in this flood and sitting with people knee deep in mud wiping their tears makes me realise you who are casting the first stone have no reality of CHRIST in YOU

      • I think its important to re-iterate that generally speaking, when natural disasters strike, it is not as if God is singling out individuals for some kind of just punishment.

        It is not as if the ones who are affected by disasters are "worse sinners" than those who are not. Again, see Luke 13:4-5

        I think its also fair to say that if someone wishes to claim to have the mind of God on these issues that relate to these disasters, when they do not, they potentially open themselves up to a kind of pride which God will resist.

        Is it a sin to ask "Why?" when disaster strikes. I don't think so. Many people are going to be asking "Why?" for some time, and if we the Christians haven't prayed about it, and are afraid even to THINK about it, I doubt if we'll have answers to the questions people are asking.

        Events like this in fact cause the FAITH of many people to be SHIPWRECKED. As in "Where was God in these flood?" I'd say God was in the fact that the waters did not rise as high as predicted. I am sure Christians were interceding on Wednesday night. We were certainly praying.

        One of the toughest things a Christian has to deal with in life is DISAPPOINTMENT and LOSS.

        Most of us have faced it. I have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and potentially millions, through various things.

        For myself, AND I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYONE ELSE'S SITUATION HERE, I can say that these things usually came about because of a presumption that I knew what to do, without consulting the Lord properly. In my life, these things happened because of a feeling of independence and trust in money that some material prosperity can engender.

        For some, discussion of these issues will be too painful at the moment, but I imagine there will come a time when people will start to think about it.

        I found in my own life that dwelling on the past too much was unhealthy, and we have to look to how to move forward.

        After losing money I was actually grateful that I had had the grace to invest in God's kingdom first. So at least something was saved for eternity.

        I do believe that these events are a wake up call for many.

        Jesus said that a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. He also warned us against laying up treasures on earth, precisely because it is so easy to lose what you work for.

        These are verses I haven't heard too much preaching on over the years. Maybe someone should dust them off.

        In the meantime, our church is doing quite a lot towards helping those who have suffered loss in all this. It is good to see this kind of love in action.

         

         

         

      • bornagainbytheblood says:

        citytaker wrote: “Every one of us are sinners saved by Grace…”

        What kind of sins are you referring to? If you’re referring to knowingly (willful) sinning, then that’s not salvation. The children of God were (past tense) sinners saved by grace; and they become Saints, not remain sinners.

        1 John 5
        [18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
        [19] And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
        [20] And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

      • The Bible says it is the GOODNESS of God that leads man to repentance!!!!
        I do not always agree with everyone’s opinion on this site,but I am not required to,neither are you. But do remember, that this site IS made up of your brothers and sisters in Christ.We are all at differing levels,with differing opinions.
        I believe it takes more humility to disagree,and still walk in Love.
        I have personally found that while I might not see eye to eye with everyone,it is stimulating and thought provoking to engage in conversation.What do you learn from “preaching to the choir” all the time?
        I have also been witness to the Love of Christ present in the very posters you refer to.
        The only reason I replied to you is that I agree with your opening statement about being saved by grace!!! And as people who have received such lavish grace,perhaps we should remember to always let that flavor our speech 🙂
        Please know that while I am not in Australia, you have my deepest sympathy,and my deepest prayers!!!!! I do hope you will let all of us here know your most pressing needs,so that we can pray with direction!!! There are a lot of “pray-ers ” here.
        With Sincere Affection,
        Beloved

      • christ is coming 777 says:

        citytaker, that was a pretty big stone you yourself threw in your last line? But we forgive you. It is an important issue that needs discussion, so discuss we will. We call for repentance & that includes us, our church and our city, our nation – in line with the truth of God word “When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people, I If my people who are called by my name, will HUMBLE themselves, PRAY, SEEK MY FACE, and TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, then I will hear from Heaven and forgive their sin and heal their land.” 2 Chron 7,14
        Grace does not remove the need for this, in fact if His grace is abused, rejected and ignored, then judgment will come to humble us. As He only gives His grace to the humble.

  5. christ is coming 777 says:

    Amen, this issue needs to be discussed.
    It was God, He controls the weather (read Job 38) and He alone Judges. He said the wages of sin is death, and mercy despised will mean justice is executed. Prophet Dr Owuor prophesied this 5 months ago and said `unless you repent it is going to be horrific` … and so it was.
    Just praying isnt enough, just giving money and helping clean up although good, isnt enough. We need a National Repentance (2 Chron 7,14) as the sins of the nation are ripe for more judgment if the lesson is not learnt.

    Dr Owuor said repentance (meaning these things must stop) is required in the church in the following areas:
    – Repentance from all false prophecy, designed to be feel good
    – from all types of sexual sin, (including pornography, lust, and sexualised dressing that provoke lust in others);
    – from abusing God’s grace, and the complacency & compromise with sin and the failure of leaders to rebuke sin;
    – from preaching the money focused prosperity gospel;
    – from postmodernism (not believing all the scriptures of the bible are for today);
    – from building the empires of men in the church to building the Kingdom of God in the church;
    – from preaching focused on improving lifestyle, rather focus on preparing the bride to be without spot, blemish or wrinkle for Christs very soon coming and ensure to teach the centrality of God’s holiness, for without holiness no one will see the Lord.

    EVEN GOD’S JUDGMENTS ARE TO BE DESIRED, FOR ALL OF HIS WAYS ARE PERFECT & WILL FULFILL THEIR PURPOSE –
    “With my soul I have desired You in the night, Yes, by my spirit within me I will seek You early; For when Your judgments are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. Let grace be shown to the wicked, Yet he will not learn righteousness” Isaiah 26,9-10

  6. I have read this post that someone sent me in absolute HORROR!!! I actually agree with Col Stringer that people who judge in the midst of this heartache are total ding a lings who do nothing for Christianity!!

    Let me ask if and I say IF this is the judgement of God on us for our ‘sins’ then why is Germany still standing, why is Denmark with the highest gay community, why Spain who do in total 100 late term abortions a week still standing why Holland with its euthanasia…. You see you don’t make sense!! You take scriptures out of context and slam them at people!
    If you had mercy and compassion you would be among the 7000 of us today out in the clean up, you would be showing mercy to the homes and families who have had everything destroyed by flood. You criticise the church, well let me say in Australia she is alive, well, passionate in love with Christ!!! I have churches who have closed down and gone, filled their cars with everything they can to help unsaved families rebuild homes and lives

    You sit here and blame MY God, well read the other scriptures and don’t you dare blame the beautiful Bride of My God

    Am I mad yes, at ding a lings who sit back and judge in the midst of sorrow and why am I mad because I lost all in this flood and don’t need people with NO mercy and no compassion writing stuff that has no place in this flood!!!

    The church in Queensland, is victorious, glorious full of mercy and on fire…. What church are you in!!!???

    Please lets have less judgement and less criticism and lets just get out there and help this country get back on her feet……… and BE the church you so easily espouse!!

    • It seems that one of the pentecostal prophets of Australia has called me a total ding a ling who does nothing for Christianity. I am really grateful that there is One Judge that we will all give account to or I would presumably be in big trouble for sure, because I have been judged as a "total ding a ling" – Australian slang for something that roughly translates to the Aramaic "Raca", or perhaps "fool" or "idiot".

      If my post is read carefully, it will be observed that I am asking questions about the origin and meaning of this disaster.

      Surely it is not a crime to ask such questions.

      I am not saying that the people who suffer loss in this or any other natural disaster are worse sinners than anyone else. That is why I made a reference to Luke 13:4-5. I am really sorry for people who have lost so much. I am really thankful that I did not buy any riverfront property – not that I could afford to. Unfortunately, I have 2 young children and a wife who is exhausted and not well, or perhaps I would be out cleaning up rubbish for someone else. I am sure there will be plenty of opportunities yet to give money, to do work and so on. I'm also sure we'll all be paying taxes and higher insurance premiums as Australians to pay for this.

      I have lived in this city for a few years now and I have been to quite a few churches. I have also preached and ministered around the world. I don't think you could call the Australian churches "praying churches". In a church of 1000 you'd be lucky to get 20 to a pre-service prayer meeting, if they have one.

      Get angry all you like. If you are so close to God, why didn't you know what was going to happen? The people who have been prophesying judgement on Australia – people like Cindy Jacobs, Heidi Baker, Dr Uwuor and others – seem to have gotten it right.

      I still don't know the answers. Its true that there are always going to be people and nations who are prosperous, though they be wicked. As I understand it, we all deserve hell, so if people are woken up to the vanity of "laying up treasure on earth where moth and rust [and floods] destroy" then it could be a great mercy in actual fact.

      The question remains:

      If God didn't do it, then either men did it (yes councils approved developments in flood zones but they did not bring the rain), the devil did it (in which case no one was sufficiently alert to rebuke the devil in time), or "Mother Nature" – the laws of science – did it. If the latter is the case, and this seems to be the consensus amongst Australian commentators, then I think we should also give "Mother Nature" and not God, credit for gentle rain, sunshine, seedtime and harvest.

      I believe that the power of MAMMON is being shaken in this country, and most people don't like it.

    • Redbuck40 says:

      Why do you assume that someone who believes God caused this flood is not out there shoveling mud with everybody else?

      I find it interesting that you had no scripture to back you up, just some guy, as if he is more important than what Father has to say!

      If you had read the scriptures you will know that God’s judgement will come to all people in God’s timing. This is our time. Are you better than God? Can you tell him what to do? He has chosen this time for us, and you seem to care more about “treasure on earth” than repentance of the nations.

      Some of these Ding-a-lings predicted before the event that this would happen, and they told many people, many in the church, but did they listen? No! Some of these ding-a-lings actually PRAYED for this event, because they had a heart for the people, that they would come to repentance, but did you? No! It seems that for you it is more important rebuilding lives and homes than repentance.

      It will be the earth-centered, “god is love only” religious people who will be the chief persecutors of the faithful in God’s house. The faithful in God’s house are those who have a heart for God, a heart for repentance, the one’s who will preach the good news of sin, righteousness and judgement.

      Your words show where you stand, it was filled with money, good works and property.

      Red.

  7. Redbuck40 says:

    For 13 of the last 14 weeks I have been praying hard for rain. Not just normal rain, but flooding rain. Currently I am in Proserpine Qld, in a stop over on the road to take The Name of Father from coast to coast.

    In late 2006 I was the mouthpiece for a prophesy that predicted floods, strong winds, and scorching heat. I have now put that prophesy on this site.

    Although the flood is far more reaching and longer lasting that I had faith to ask for, the reason for this flood, the only reason that I prayed for, is:

    Father these people have rejected your face, they consider you to be a lie, so I plead with you, show them that you mean business. That you are calling them to repentance. Show them your power and enable your servants, your prophets to speak with great boldness. But Father in wrath remember mercy. remember your children, those who call on your name.

    Is Father the cause of the floods? Yes.

    Will we be persecuted for this? Yes

    It is up to us to spread news of the goodness and severity of our God. Goodness that only a few people were lost, and severity that there was so much damage besides.

    Although I feel for those who have lost family members I know from scripture that there is no one person who is innocent. If a believer has died they are now done with sin and are in Heaven with Christ. The others are in the world of the dead waiting for judgement and Hell. Let us not grieve for the lost but get on with the job of preaching repentance!

    Let us go to work!

    In Christ,

    Chris

  8. Blackmagicrescue says:

    Wow great post Michael. Shocking about the 6 inches of rain. I totally think it is a result of that fallen pastor, if that’s what he was. But what I did not see in your post, but probably you were implying it in general, is that these kinds of disasters are part of the end-times and are foretelling the coming of Jesus soon…Luke 21-5-11

    • Redbuck40 says:

      In the words of our Lord: “Do you think that this person was more of a sinner than the rest of them in that city? No, I tell you, for unless you too repent you will all likewise perish.”

      This disaster is a call for repentance.

      Chris

  9. webconsult says:

    Excerpt ….

    “The earth will fall into the sea,” I heard the angel say,” part of Australia will be shaken. Australia will be divided, and a great part will go under the ocean. “This was frightening – I wondered whether I was hearing right.”

    Full transcript…

    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=angelwarn

  10. Joshuagm1991 says:

    From the outside looking in it just seems like a call to repentance. And for actual born again Christians I could see it as a blessing because it’s a chance to submit if they haven’t already. For born again Christians that have submitted it could be their times of trial and testing. For the deaths it could have been their last chance to repent OR they died in Christ and it was a gain.

    Just some thoughts on maybe how God works.

    Love you Aussies, God bless.

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