Hello Fellow Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ!

Hi everyone,
I am new here and hoping to get all kinds of great advice and insight. I would like to pray for others and also need prayer for myself. I am struggling right now with what to believe and what not to when it comes to healing. I don’t see anywhere in the Bible where God declares he wants us all to be healed. I need a miracle, I am 33 years old and I have a very rare genetic inherited disease which there is no cure or treatment. Two years ago I heard God tell me to “Be still and know that I am God.” after I specifically cried out to him in anguish and broken-heartedness, to heal me from this affliction and that was the last I have heard from God. I feel alone, and hurt that I can’t hear God speaking or if he is even speaking to me at all. I ask myself so many times whether he hears me or if i matter enough, sounds ridiculous but I feel very spiritually weak. Please, all advice welcomed, I need it.
In Christ,
Delli

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  2. Hi Delli,
    Welcome to this site. Im also new and just like everyone here, I’d love to fellowship, to pray and be prayed:-).
    Thanks for your sharing and I will pray for you. I want to encourage you to continue in the faith and may the peace of God be unto you in this time. It can be difficult to be still and know that God is God when we earnestly want things “now”…especially for a miracle.
    I personally am inspired by “Still and know that I am God” coz that is the best thing to do when we are confused and just trust God for His Being.
    I know that you are in a difficult situation and I cant imagine how you feel, but, I know that God loves you and you are special and I hope that your relationship with God will be strenghtened also.
    Im in the office right now, so Im just sharing a bit, I will write more when i can find time again..
    God bless,
    Imee

    • Thanks Imee.
      I have to admit I do have the type of personality where I expect things to happen now. But I have been praying for over two years and it seems as though everything is getting worse. It is discouraging. How do I find God when I am seeking so hard? I am scared what His will is for me in my life. I don’t sound like a good Christian, I sound like a baby. I really need prayers!! I have to try with all my heart to “Be still” and hand it over to God. Everytime I think I handed over to God I am back to where I started. Anxious, scared, depressed, and being self-centered, not God-centered. It’s hard isn’t it? Just like I told Handoko, I am grateful for this forum and I hope I can be equally as encouraging for all of you. I am looking forward to getting to know lots of other christians. Have a great day.
      In Christ love,
      Delli

      • Hi Delli,
        It’s normal to be discouraged as it’s part of our being human, but as Christians, the bible told us to always thank and praise God in everything. I know it can be difficult to do that and it needs an effort to do so when things arent going well, but, once we start just praising and thanking God for everything, I can say that our emotions changes and our outlook in life also changes. It helps also to listen to praise songs.
        At times, we dont really need to seek God so hard…we just need to be still…how to do that you may ask…start by praising and thanking God and it’s just all about him…I encouraged you to do this for some days or one week. I hope that you will see some changes…and I hope that you will be able to continue that practice in your walk with God…
        About surrender, It’s all about trusting God and knowing that He is supreme and knows all our needs. Any negative thoughts and feelings are not from God, it’s the way satan tricks human to hold back from God. When you surrender, you just have to trust and an inner peace which is beyond comparison is there to guide you..
        Maybe, the message you got from God two years ago is still the same until now…He wants you to really Trust and Know HIM.
        God wants us to have characters…the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Im not fully there yet, but I take it one day at a time:-). Sometimes, we think too much what is the will of God for “me”? then we began to make goals or plans and we make our own answers as to what God wills for us. In what I know, God wills for all to have a strong relationship with Him, get to know Him intimately and that we become a testimony of his great love.
        As Michael have mentioned, at times God’s answer or promise takes years..why?.. i believe that in our waiting period, it is a way also to see if we truly trust God…and it’s a way also for us to build a character.
        I will pray for you and it’s nice to get to know you and be able to share with you and pray for you also.

        God bless,
        Imee

  3. Its great to have you on the forum. God bless you. I believe that there are vast promises in the Bible that are untapped, but I also know that sometimes receiving the fulfillment of the promise can take years of waiting.

    My friend Stanley was healed after several years of a very painful condition in his knee. You can read his story on this website. Just search for Stanley in the search box on this website.

    We all want to escape discomfort, but sometimes God wants to use our discomfort to drive us to seek Him. If we find Him and inner healing and sanctification and a changed life on the inside, together with a renewed mind, then we can get healing and lots more.

    The Bible says that Jesus took our infirmities and bore our diseases, and with his stripes we are healed. Isaiah 53:4,5. So it is in the Word of God. See also Psalm 103:1-3. I have written articles on this subject – I hope they are of some help to you. There is a divine healing section on the site.

    With love and respect,

    Michael

    • Hello Michael!

      Thanks for replying. In one way, I keep thinking God does want to use me for something special but my human flesh takes over and doubts come flowing in. In Isaiah 53:4,5, the old testament, does that apply to us today? Is that the Abrahamic law? Some people say that it is a spiritual healing and not a physical healing. If this is true why do so many Chrisitans die of infirmities and sicknesses? I know that we all can’t live forever but so many Christ-believing christians are sick. I am so far from being the “perfect” Christian but I do not know what else I can change in my Chrisitan walk, I need God to put on my spiritual eyes so I can see what I need to do. Did you post your articles on the subjects listed above? If so, I would be interested in reading them. I told Imee and Handoko to let me know if there are any specific prayer requests and I will include them in my prayer time and the same to you as well. Take care!
      In Christ love,
      Delli

      • God does want to use you for something special. “This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit – so you shall be my disciples” (John 15:8). “I know the thoughts I have towards you, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a hope and a future”. (Jeremiah 29:11).

        Reasoning based on our present negative experiences will not lead to faith. It produces doubt. I’ve even struggled with this myself recently. Then we have to get back to praising God, and trusting God, or we’ll be miserable.

        About Isaiah 53. It is Old Testament, but its a prophecy about the work of Jesus on the cross. And its very important to know that while we are NOT under Old testament rules and regulations, nevertheless, “All the promises of God in Him are yes and amen to the glory of God through us.” (2 Corinthians 1:20). Paul was talking about Old Testament promises when he wrote that. Otherwise he would not say “all”. That was the Scripture of those days.

        Its not just a spiritual healing, because the Hebrew words used are strictly physical, though the English Bible didn’t translate them that way – surely he took our diseases and carried our pains. This Scripture had a fulfillment in Matthew 8:17 as well, and it referred to physical healing and the ministry of Jesus.

        Many Christians die of sicknesses and infirmities because for the same reason that Christians (including myself) fall short of the perfection that Christ made possible through his work on the cross. It takes knowledge, faith and patience to inherit the promises. God’s timing can depend also on our attitudes and God has an order in our lives too. His priority is usually on inner attitudes and ours is on fleshly relief.

        We are called to live in the presence of God in a spirit of prayer if we want to see God do all He can do in and through us. We need to learn that and then many miracles will begin to happen – I know this from personal experience but need to remind myself also of this truth.

        I have written on this at http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/divine-healing . Please feel free to comment and raise questions.

        Please pray for my family and I as we prepare to return to Australia. I need spiritual renewal again myself and I want some financial stability for my family. I would like to get a job again. Please also pray for our TV ministry as well.

  4. Hi Delli,

    My name is Handoko, I’m quite new as a Christian I guess, since its just recently that I can really say that I believe in Jesus. I’m not yet know much about Christian theology to answer your question about healing. There is so much people saying different things. But I really want to help you since I can feel how hard it is for you. Few years ago I learn that I got Rheumathoid Arthritis, some mistake with my immune system that it attack my joints tissue instead attacking virus that enter my body. I was 26 at that time and everyone kind of raise their eyebrows saying, “You are so young how could you get an arthritis. Maybe you need more excercising.”

    I also began to learn from the doctor and a small search at internet, that it not only attack joint tissue but at certain condition its also attack my eyes. Indeed few years before I get this terrible pain in my eye, that it so hurt when light hit my eye. It cured but the doctor can’t find what cause it. He said maybe its from an infection from my tooth or it could be cause by some infection on my nose. But they don’t know for sure. Well at that time I know why. The worst is when the pain grew more and more in my knee, my shoulder and my hand (I barely able to get up, I need help from other to pee and other things). Then things get btter with medications and such. The pain is gone but once and a while it attack. The doctor said that I’ll never cured completely. But through that pain I met this woman that now become my wife.

    I’ll pray for you since I know it must be really hard for you. I, myself feel so weak spiritually. And I have almost the same problem as you too. Many times during my pray I felt like God didn’t listen to my pray. Sometimes I feel so desperately seek for his voices. I kind of envy with those who able to hear His voice, even if it just once in their life time. You know Delli, I think God really care for you otherwise how you could hear Him saying that to you. That is one experience that most people never get. I have pray many times asking God to make me able to hear His voice.

    Just last night that I pray, look for strength, ask Him to give me sign that He agree with the decision I took and heard nothing. At last I give up and go to sleep. Maybe I never get anything because I’m not trying hard enough. Sorry if I’m rambling about myself.

    I just want to say Delli, you must be special in the eye of God. Otherwise two years ago you won’t heard anything. I believe that God know well, how hard your life and how much the pain you must endure. He know the life you have to go through, He know that the pain you must endure is more than most people. He know it well because He’s been there too, He felt all kind of pain when He was on earth. So He said to you what you should do, “Be still and know that I am God”. He said that to give you strength and guidance.

    And as I said before I don’t know much about God, I still need to read a lot, train myself to put my faith on Him, walk according to His law and experienced more of God. But one thing I know for sure since God who has told you two years ago. That exactly what you should do.

    Be still and know that He is God. He can heal you. He loves you, He have plans for you and He never fail in His plans.

    Sometimes we don’t know what His plans are. Sometimes we’re not sure about many things. But there are also some we can say for sure, things like God loves us, God is mighty that nothing can fail Him, etc. So I think lets just hold on what we have know from God and based on that knowledge we live and pray in our pray. We know He listened to our pray and that He really care for our daily problem. And as we live leaning on our knowledge on Him, we also try to find out more about Him. Read Bibles, learn to believe in His promises we found there, try to learn about His personality through His actions we can see in the Bible.

    Maybe thats what He want to say it to you. Be still -> keep your faith on Him, do not give up. And know that He is God -> learn to know Him more and more. He is God.

    Its like Job, by the way he said about The God he knew as he live through all that pain. We can see that Job knew that God is love, righteous, just in His action, etc. Although he felt God has treated him unjustly but in his heart he also knew that God won’t do such thing. Job is struggling with the all the bad experience he have and the knowledge he have about God. His faith are tested. At the end Job learn about God more than he knew about Him before.

    Job 42:1-6
    1 Then Job answered the LORD, and said,
    2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
    3 Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
    4 Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
    5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
    6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

    But even before Job said this, there are few things he already know about God that even as he keep asking God why all that things happened to him and that God have punished him without reason, we can see that Job have this faith on God. And keep hold on his faith.

    Job 16:18-22
    18 O earth, cover not thou my blood, and let my cry have no place.
    19 Also now, behold, my witness is in heaven, and my record is on high.
    20 My friends scorn me: but mine eye poureth out tears unto God.
    21 O that one might plead for a man with God, as a man pleadeth for his neighbour!
    22 When a few years are come, then I shall go the way whence I shall not return.

    Job 19:25-27
    25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
    26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
    27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

    And we can also see that his knowledge about God is grow. You see at Job 16, Job believe that God will defend him against his best friends that keep accusing him. But he stil see death as the end of it (Job16:22). Now see at Job 18:25-27, he now knew that even after he died, after “…my skin worms destroy this body”, God will not avail him, “…yet in my flesh I shall see God.”

    And you know as I try to find those passages in Bible, I type my redeemer in search box. Only two passages found :
    Job 19:25 For I know <03045> (8804) that my redeemer <01350> (8802) liveth <02416>, and that he shall stand <06965> (8799) at the latter <0314> day upon the earth <06083>:

    Psalms 19:14 Let the words <0561> of my mouth <06310>, and the meditation <01902> of my heart <03820>, be acceptable <07522> in thy sight <06440>, O LORD <03068>, my strength <06697>, and my redeemer <01350> (8802). {strength: Heb. rock}

    Perhaps some read on Job can help you to find more strength. Because I found it myself that its very interesting and encourage us and I belieev we can learn a lot as we see how Job struggle. One moment he claim his righteous live then he goes on admit that no one should be seen righteous in the eyes of God (but we know that God has said in the first part of Job that God see him as righteous man). Then Job goes on blaming God, moment later he look God to defend him against his accusation. I’m not good at explain this, my english is not good and I just read Job few days ago. I think its better if you read it by yourself and let the Holy Spirit guide you.

    Delli I think you have special place in God eyes. Just humble yourself in front of Him and keep search Him, seek Him more and more. And when things goes worse and you feel that you want to give up, remember those words that God said to you, two years ago. I don’t know what God plans for you. But I know one thing, your post has encourage me to seek God with all my might.

    Love you in Christ.

    • I am really touched that the people on this forum actually care enough to offer me insight like this. I thank God for all of you-what a blessing for me to have found this site. I realize I am not the only person in the world hurting like this and not to sound selfish but at times it feels that way. I am truly crying out to God and being honest with the way I feel. I need Him, I so desperately need to hear from Him. I cry out and ask “why God, why me? I have four beautiful children, a supporting husband and I love you God and I seek you daily. What am I doing wrong?” I have concluded one thing, there is no one way or formula or specific actions that we can do to achieve our answer from God. I catch myself at times wondering why in the world do I even think for a minute that God will take this disease from me. It seems like all the miracles happen to others and not those who are hurting around me. I have messed up in my christian walk when I was younger and have truly repented to God.
      Handoko, I understand how you feel when people look at you and think you are too young to expereince this arthritis and pain. What they don’t understand is that you don’t want this arthritis and it’s not in your head. I wonder for you if it is spritual warfare. You said you are a “new christian” and possibly the devil or his helpers want to discourage your new faith in God. I just finished a great study on warfare and sometimes; not all, but sometimes sicknesses or diseases or marriage problems, ect., come from strongholds (meaning satan). You seem so strong in the Lord and faithful even though you said you feel spiritually weak. I feel disconnected from God and lost. Lately, like Job, I curse the day I was born. I have done nothing notable or worthy for God, I can’t really help anyone, I am just an ordinary person. And yet, I have such a desire to help others, I would love to do missions work. I like to see others happy and be a part of that.
      The pain in your eye must have been scary for you. Good thing the pain went away, but like you said God meant it for good, now you have your wife to love you and support you. I will pray that God restores you to perfect health and that you continue to grow in Him and that He speaks to you in such a way that you have complete peace. I have two blind spots in my left eye from my disease so even when I try to forget I have it I can’t, it is a constant reminder for me.
      Technically, I know God cares for me b/c I believe in the Word of the Bible but I am the kind of person who leads my thoughts with my heart. In my heart I don’t know where God is in my life, I seek His direction yet get none, I seek knowledge yet get confusion, I seek His comfort yet feel sorrow. That’s what hurts my heart. That is why I say I am broken-hearted. I love God so much. I need Him and I will continue to call on Him, it is just so hard when there is silence.
      Handoko, Thanks for the wonderful advice. I will read Job over and over again until I can learn from it. In the meanwhile, if you have any specific prayer requests, let me know. I have faith for others just not myself. It’s awesome to get advice from other christian believers. And if you can prayer for my family I would be grateful. Keep looking up and God Bless!
      In Christ love,
      Delli

      • Hi Delli,

        The arthritis isn’t so bad anymore, it attack once and a while when I’m exhausted from work or the weather is too cold. But talking about my arthritis it hardly give me pain anymore. Thank God for that. Last time I felt this pain in my neck, I decide to pray instead taking the medication. And its not getting worse, its not gone instantly but the next day I don’t feel the pain anymore, when from my previous experience its better to drink the medication right away, postponing just make it worse. I try to do this after reading your article about divine healing, Michael. Thanks.

        Delli, few years ago when the pain is at its worst. That’s when I couldn’t walk or get up or do anything. I think, I just like you, I cry to God and ask why? Its like the pain is going to be forever. At night alone in my room, I couldn’t sleep there is this burning sensations in my joints, I cry to God, pray for a while and lose my hope in the next minutes. I’ve been there too, where I begin to curse the day I was born. I mean I just 26 and could not barely walk or even work, to know that there are other people out there suffering more than me wasn’t help me at all. I’m really sorry that I could not advise you better because I’m not sure either if that happened to me now, can I live by it the way that please God? It should be different, I mean years ago I’m not quite understand about what Jesus has done for me. Now I begin to understand. So it should be different but I’m not sure.

        By the way about Job, I found this interesting passage, this is the first time God finally speak to Job :

        1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
        2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

        For me personally it kind of answer my prayer, as you have seen in the prayer request thread, I currently having this situation and need guidance from God, for the decision I took. About two days ago, I began to doubt my decision, am I right, is it true that God want me to do this, etc. Well thoughts like that.

        Sometimes the thoughts or ideas that come into my mind distract me from the knowledge I already have about God. I already knew that Jesus, when he live among us, He never refuse those who came to Him, I never read anyone with illness come to Jesus and not healed. I never read anyone come to Jesus to ask question to Him and not answered. He always gives answers to those who ask Him a questions. Even those who is not sincere in their question, He always give them answer. And why should we doubt that God will not hear our pray? Why should we doubt that God will not show His presence when we seek for Him?

        Jesus has show us all, what is our Father in heaven like. When Zacchaeus determine to see Jesus, not only he see Jesus but that day Jesus willing to abide in his house. So why we doubt that He will not come to us as we sincerely seek for Him?

        So I think we have to have this courage, this faith, as we come to God. Courage and faith that come from our knowledge of His charater, His personality. I know its not easy, for me, I’m really like these disciple, they wonder can Jesus give food for 4000+ people? When they have saw Jesus give food for more than 5000. They even think that Jesus worried about food after they have seen both of that miracles.

        Let be sure for one thing that through this pain, this disease, this trouble, we’ll learn to put our faith in our Lord Jesus, that we shall see how wonderful our Lord is. Against all things He will win, no disease that He can’t heal and He’ll surely heal us from all disease. And at that day we’ll praise Him and testify of the wonderful things He do in our live.

        God bless you and your family that His own hand that will guide you.

        1 < > The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
        2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
        3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
        4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
        5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
        6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

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