God’s Dealings with Australia in Natural Disasters

"The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, 8 if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it." (Jer 18,7)

Since I live in Australia  – and have lived in a number of other countries with much better spiritual climates – I know how much repentance is needed here, especially of prayerlessness and our self-suficiency and self-reliance, trying to do it all on our own and ignore God. Independence from God is a big one. And there are many many other sins that are prevalent.

 

I have heard for example that they were about to bring a new law in Queensland to allow babies in mother's wombs to killed even in the 8th month of pregnancy, and it was due to be voted this January! Well, the floods came faster … I don't think this is a coincidence just as I don't think it is a coincidence with the fires that ravaged Victoria after the same law was brought in there.

 

Oh, when are we going to give up our: I am alright mate! attitude! I don't need God's direction in everything, I can lead a church by myself, I know how to build it, I know what programs to organise and the Holy Spirit can take a back seat and watch my wonderful achievements through my own ingenuosity and wisdom. I know how to run my life and I am doing a good job without needing to consult God all the time and neither do I need the others in the church, I am all-sufficient by myself… – these are some of the attitudes that quite a number of Christian have – of course, there is always a remnant who thinks and lives differently.

 

It reminds me of something Jesus described:

' Because you say: I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing' – and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind and nake – I counsel you to buy gold refined in the fire, that you MAY BE RICH; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. AS MANY AS I LOVE, I REBUKE AND CHASTEN. THEREFORE, BE ZEALOUS AND REPENT." (Revelation 3:17-19)

 

As I last comment, God gave me a dream about Australia in January 2008 about a revival coming, but there will be also natural disasters and terrorist acts – you can read it on this website if you use the search box. He told me to pray for revival. I will be praying for Australia that it bows the knee to Jesus and self gets dethroned, starting from the churches, and then going to others. We need a major revival in the church itself at first. I hear reports from my own pastor, who is a well respected man, as well as others, of adultery, sex, alchohol abuse, drugs and partying and then coming to church as if nothing happened. This includes ministers in some cases. Drugs get sold to Christians, etc.

 

I also know about a pastor who committed adultery with the wife of a member, then did counselling with the man about his marriage problems – which the man sensed – and then took off with his wife to start a new life – and hit Toowoomba before the flood came…

How can we say things are good in Australia?? Even the fact that there is no consensus in what God is saying in the mist of this crisis shows that the state of the church is not very good, if we can't hear His voice on the matter – which I believe is because of the prayerlessness in the nation. I don't mean Australians don't pray at all – but there is not much sacrificial prayer, prayer and fasting meetings, all night vigils like it's so common in other nations. Prayer tends to not even be on the list of subjects discussed in major conferences in this country. I am not critical, I am just taking a realistic look at the situation of why we are in this state.

 

Have we forgotten the Scripture that says: WITHOUT HOLINESS NO MAN WILL SEE THE LORD" and

"NOT EVERYONE who says to me, "Lord, Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES the will of My Father in heaven … depart from Me, you who PRACTICE lawlessness!" (Matthew 25:21 – 23)

 

It seems to me that we will be evaluated for entry to heaven by what we DO and PRACTICE, not just by believing that Jesus paid for our sins and saying sorry to God. He wants more than sorry, He wants our lives proving that we are sorry and we have turned from our sins by what we DO and PRACTICE. Salvation is free through the sacrifice of Jesus, but to appropriate it, you need to reconcile with God and remain reconciled. And then you need to WORK OUT your salvation with fear and trembling. Look at this verse:

 

'He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not BLOT OUT his name from the Book of Life." (Rev 3:5) As you can see, you can be in the Book of Life as a believer, and CAN be blotted out. And in case you want to know how Jesus determines this, it is written a few verses before:

'for I have not found your WORKS perfect before God." Jesus looks at your works to determine whether to keep you or blot you out of His Book of Life. In fact, all the seven churches in revelation are evaluated by their works in detail by Jesus, just read it for yourself!

 

Also, in case people do not believe God judges now in the New Testament, have a look at this verses written to CHURCH (not the world) in Thyatira, writing about a woman in the church, that called herself a prophetess, but was teaching sexual immorality and eating things sacrificed to the idols:

"I have given her TIME to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. Indeed I WILL CAST HER into a sick bed, and those who commit adultery with her INTO GREAT TRIBULATION, unless they repent of their deeds. I WILL KILL HER CHILDREN with death, AND ALL THE CHURCHES SHALL KNOW THAT I AM HE WHO SEARCHES THE MINDS AND HEARTS." (Rev 2:21 – 23)

 

As you can see in this passage it says : "I WILL", not the devil. God sends judgement on the unrepentant, in this case in this life, not at the end of times. The reason for God doing this is that the churches should fear Him as it says at the end of the passage.

 

I felt to share this in case someone needs to correct their image of who God is in the New Testament, apart from being the loving and merciful God that He is. Let's worship a God not after our own imagination, but according to truth from the New Testament.

 

Let's repent and do works befitting repentance in this land and it may be God will have mercy on us. And if we refuse, He might just have to intensify His judgements, till we take notice. He does it out of a desperate love, to get us out of our lukewarmness and our backsliding, so we can be going to the right eternal destination, both those in church and those outside it.

 

Right after the NZ earthquake, I had a vision, not knowing it was Christchurch city that was hit – it is on this website, just do a search through the search box – and God showed me a gate that was wide opened by a big wind. Then He said: My church has opened the door to sin, I am opening the door to natural disasters" . I then went to the computer and realised it was Christchurch that was hit! I felt that word applied not only to NZ but to Australia also. I think time proved it right.

Even the Queensland State Premier, Mrs Anna Bligh – whose plane was struck directly by lightening as well and somehow still worked, though usually all power would be cut off and engines would stop working – seems to get a glimpse of God's message, since she said:

"it would be easy to think somebody up there has got a grudge against us". It seems that the world is starting to see this while some in the church are fighting to eradicate such thoughts that this might be a judgement from God.

 

I think pastors should tremble before God and get His mind before getting into the pulpits as they are VERY responsible before God in how they lead the people and what decisions they make for His flock. Humanistic leadership only goes that far.

 

Peter in the Bible told people that they have crucified the Lord! And instead of people being offended by such hard sayings, they were gripped to the heart and 3000 repented and got baptised in one day! These are much better results than what we get these days in our churches … something to think about … And if they get offended, so be it, Jesus let people go when they were ofended, He was not desperately trying to keep them all together so His ministry would look good and He would feel successful.

 

Also I feel that in Australia we need to let go of our fear of what people might think or say, give up being politically correct and actually tell people the truth, what they NEED to hear in order to be saved, instead of what would make them feel good, comforted and loved.

 

We are serving God first, not people. If people need to be made to grieve for their sins, if they feel uncomfortable for a while in order to get right with God, if they need to be made feel bad that they have offended and ignored God, if we will be hated for it, so be it!

It is LOVE to tell people what they NEED to hear to save them from hell, then to tell them nice sweet words that would make them feel good for now and lost forever. If your house was on fire, would you like me to come and scare you a bit with the reality that your house is burning and tell you to do uncomfortable things like break a window and jump down and other such unpleasant things so you can be saved or would you rather want me to say: I am so sorry this is happening to you, but somehow you will get through this and we are Queenslanders, we can rise up again as if nothing happened and we will all be safe.

 

I know that people are suffering now and we also need to show love and compassion, but we need to balance that with speaking the truth to them, or a worse thing might come upon them if they keep on sinning. I only hear people saying the sweet part and few saying this is a shaking, a wake up call and a judgement from God sent because of our sins, as a desperate measure from God's part to get people's attention before they slip away – as many are every day – into an eternity of hell fire and torment.

 

Today as I was looking at the news I began to weep uncontrolably a few times and I felt a deep grief coming from God's heart, churning inside Him, because He is very sad and grieved and pities the people that such a thing must come upon them, but He feels there is no other thing He can do, because He cares about their eternal souls more than about their natural comfort.

 

Since nice gentle calling did not work, He is forced to do what He really abhores, to punish in order to get the attention of the people. I really felt His heart churning inside Him hating that He has to do this, yet feeling like He has no choice, this is the best He can do with what people have given Him to work with.

 

And if you are still doubting that God judges, look at this:

 I form the light and create darkness,
 I make peace and create calamity;
 I, the LORD, do all these things.’(Isaiah 45:7)

 

LET'S REPENT!

What do YOU think?

Comments

  1. I thank God for your courage and wisdom in telling what people need to hear.

    YT

    • christ is coming 777 says:

      Amen. Righteousness and Judgment are the foundation of God’s Throne (Psalm 97). We must not try to dethrone Him, but understand his purposes in bring judgment. If we know and trust Him we will even agree with His judgments as all of His ways are perfect

  2. bornagainbytheblood says:

    The cyclone has been upgraded to a category 5. Australia is really being tried.

    • When you look at the Australian coastline, where the cyclone WAS heading (Cairns) and the place this huge cyclone hit, you can see that there is an interplay of the prayers of God's people in all these natural disasters.

      I believe that God is easily entreated and spares many for the sake of the intercession of a few righteous people. I am sure that many Christians were praying about this, as we were in a group last night in our home, and although some people have lost their houses, as far as we know, no one has lost their lives, and the damage was remarkably small for a cyclone the size of Hurricane Katrina.

      In these last Days I believe we will see more and more disasters on every level, and this will provoke God's people to become more and more effective in intercession and prayer. If people watch and pray more, then the strategy to wake people up is working.

      Because sweet promises of prosperity and good times alone certainly don't wake sleeping people up. Australia is proof of that. We've enjoyed unbelievable prosperity until now – in the last 40 years at least.

  3. Bmaddigan,

    Much of what you said is quite true. We have Dt 28 and Lev 26 that reveal the consequences of obedience and disobedience. And Romans 8 talks about the creation groaning in travail in anticipation of the adoption of the children of God.

    In truth, none of us can specifically refer to an event and state it was due to this or that reason — Romans 8 states that God set creation because of our sin — unless it is on a human level: if you mop the floor with soapy water and pretend that you can walk normally, and not carefully, without slipping, falling and hurting yourself (aside fro the grip of your shoes!) then it serves you right. God has given us a reasonably sturdy, logical mind.

    There are, however, things outside of our subjective purview that belong to he Lord. These are those secret things – Dt 29:29.

    I live in Melbourne, Australia. My mum is on the Gold Coast. Ironically, if there was any state that was due for a correction, then it should be Victoria. We now have one of the most liberal abortion laws in the world. On top of that is the legalizing of gambling, prostitution, homosexuality, etc. What we witness in such events is the rise of autonomous man — humanism. And when this permeates society, that is, more and more take up with the same worldview, then our institutions start to decay and crumble.

    We do have, however, one of the greatest systems of liberal and constitutional democracy that still constrains the drive into full on anti-Christianity – as does NZ, the UK, the US, and Western Europe. But, as I noted the institutions reflect the heart.

    Australians do have a she’ll be right mentality. They do not want to think much or consider the possibility of “religion”, or of a God to which they must give an account. Many in this country have given themselves to humanism, and its variants: materialism, self, greed, etc. But today is the day of mercy and the Lord can bring revival – for which we pray.

    I recall reading Iain Murray’s “Australian Christian Life from 1788″. He mentions the revivals that took place in many country locations in Australia. That is why there are so many small churches. But Christianity is not as publicly prevalent here as, I gather, in the US. Murray also mentions in his “The Puritan Hope” that there has not been a significant revival in the West for 100-200 years (apart from the Billy Graham crusades). Fascinating?

    When a people can live on the shirt-tales of the blessings of the Reformation, the expansion of this via the Dutch and British — to the US, Australia, NZ, etc. — and liberal democracy (the rule of common law), the prosperity of the Industrial Revolution and so on, and then deny the giver, then you know we are heading for a world of hurt.

    My pastor suggested the use of a question about the Queensland floods: “perhaps God is trying to tell us something,” in discussing this with a non-Christian. And then along comes Yasi (which did not prove as bad as expected). Our prime minister can confidently go on air and refer to mother nature. I have actually never met mother nature. But I know that the word of God upholds all of His creation and nothing happens without His permission and design.

    God is a being who is absolute righteousness and love; we cannot stand before Him, because we are so corrupt. It took the torment that Jesus suffered, to receive God’s punishment in our place, for the Lord to be able to pardon us. This message is still fresh available for anyone who will accept what Jesus has done for him- or herself. Today is the day to turn from self as the boss to acknowledging Jesus as boss (King of all kings, and Lord of all lords).

    • anonymous-em says:

      this is a pet subject for me, not because I’m homosexual, but because I support human rights.

      telling people how to live their lives, based on your subjective, unprovable, and highly interpretable religion is, quite simple, immoral.

      The common justification I hear is “god said so” – okay, that’s fine as a defence for you, but it nonetheless remains unethical.

      The strange thing is, many christians actually agree with me. They ALSO think it is unethical to FORCE, for example, wearing of the Muslim hijab, on the grounds that it’s unethical to force anyone to follow somone else’s religion. There is an obvious hypocrisy here.

      Other rationale I have heard include things like “it’s unnatural”, or “it will serve to depelet the species”. Both of these are typically invalidated by a failure to define “natural”, a failure to observe homosexuality naturally occuring in other species, or a failure to understand that the realtive numbers of homosexuals cannot possibly significantly deplete our species, which is already in serious danger of being far too big anyhow.

      So – I’ll get off my highhorse now, but if you’re going to suggest that society should follow YOUR religion, you first need to think about how you might feel if you were forced to wear a hijab on the grounds that it was the word of a god from a religion that you don’t support.

      • MattieBow says:

        There are things that are permissable but not beneficial to human rights and humanity. And it doesn’t matter or change the facts one iota what many christians THINK or agree with or disagree with and after reading God’s thoughts on it below, they need to re-evaluate what they believe. It ONLY MATTERS what God says about it: Romans 1:25-32; “They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen.
        26. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
        27. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relationships with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men and recieved in themselvs the due penalty for their perversion.
        28. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.
        29. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
        30. slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they disobey their parents;
        31. they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
        32. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

        Now, does this sound like these behaviours will not negatively affect humanity? Look around, read the papers, it already has.

      • read Genesis, God created, (man) then (woman)!!! not man man or woman woman, read the bible about this, homosexuals aspect you will learn the truth.

  4. lookinforacity says:

    Everyone makes mention of the fact there is a great need for revival in Australia, but also as people have said, this needs to take place within the Church first, how is this revival to be accomplished?
    I do not know how many different Christian Denominations there are in Australia, but the biggest part of this revival would be the Uniting of these differing denominations. Which one of these denominations would be willing to take a subordinate role in any new UNITED CHRISTIAN organization?
    It isn’t as simple as REVIVAL when differing beliefs come into play. Everyone says the bible is true, but we can’t even get a consensus of belief here on this site, concerning the flood, and cyclone, whether they are God ordained or not.

    Luk 11:17
    Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

    Unless someone hasn’t noticed, our house is, and has been divided for Centuries, and with the passage of time the division grows exponentially.
    I do not see in the near future a Revival either breaking out or taking place in Australia any time soon, this has nothing at all to do with the general attitude of the population, but with the Church itself, and I do not mean the Spiritual body of Christ, but the Organized Religions which purport to be that body.

    Has anyone witnessed this taking place?

    Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:

    It does not matter how many Prophets come to Australia, whatever Prophesy they may give would only be given to a local body that believes in Prophesy to begin with, the other Denominations that do not believe that Prophets are for today, “WILL NOT ACCEPT” any prophesy.
    In comparison, the Old Testament Prophets, were always speaking to the whole Nation, and there was only one Religion to contend with. Even then, the prophets had a hard time getting anyone to listen to them.
    What would make us think today would be any different?

    Be Blessed
    JIM

    • The one thing I see taking place that could possibly be a unifying factor is the baptism in the Holy Spirit.That being said,even with that there are differing maturity levels.But,it seems that there is more unity in this body of believers,than in any other. (?)
      Beloved

    • I personally believe that God only needs a small core of people who will faithfully walk with Him, and He can then move in great power.

      We should be willing to love and bless Christians of all theological persuasions.

      We also can't expect people to give up their legal structures and ownership of resources in order to fit the agenda of some supra-denominational organisation.

      Unity is built on relationships and on unity with the Lord. All we can do is learn to love God more and to love our neighbour as ourselves.

    • God will not revive what he did not build.

      In Father’s plans he made no room for denominations, indeed the word means to divide, and I can hear Paul’s word clearly in this “one new man in Christ Jesus”.

      Denominations are man’s idea trying to improve Father’s plan, but all Father wants in the one new man.

      The only way for revival, as we put it, to have any effect in this country, is for the people in Christ to forget denominations and go back to what is recorded as the early church.

      The best thing for this country would be the closing of churches, the loss of tax free benefits, and an end to ordained (by man through college or university) ministry.

      My brother is ordained, he went through a “bible” college, and to this day he continues to spread lies about his family and breathe hatred towards his parents. But he preaches a “nice” word and is head of a “christian” youth organisation. He is loved and treated well, indeed as much as he hates and despises his family. Some of you may have met him, have heard his “story” of persecution and believed it! He is likable, friendly, trustworthy, everything you would expect from a clergyman, but he is a liar and has built his reputation upon lies.

      Only when this country is rid of people like this who hold power in a church, who has spoken to tens of thousands, and remove the denominations that support and protect those like him, will there even be a hint of “revival”.

  5. Yes, Victoria seems to have its own natural disasters right now with the flooding.

     

    Aparently the politician's house that gave Julia Gillard the vote that made her win the election has been torn apart by the cyclone as well as his electorate got hit really hard. The Bible says that it is a curse for a women to rule over you and here we are with 3 women in the very top leadership positions.

     

    Australia will have a revival, God has promised it, but when and how it will manifest remains to be seen. In the meantime, let's pray for it to materialize and prepare our hearts so when it comes, we are found ready and useful to God rather than under deep conviction of sin – as it's the usual with revivals. God needs everyone of us in the gap and there is none less important and unnecessary, let's pray TILL it comes. Blessings.Marilena

    • anonymous-em says:

      hello Marilena,
      You say that god has promised a revival in Australia – of christianity no doubt.

      there’s a few problems with this kind of statement.
      1. it’s not factually supported – the current demographical distribution of religion in australia shows that “none” is the fastest increasing answer to “what religion are you, if any”. – okay, this doesn’t mean that a revivial isn’t coming in the future, but it means that there is no sign of it to date.

      2. Revelations actually requires in last days, that christians will be an oppressed minority. I’m personally NOT looking forward to last days, but I don’t think they actually WILL come. in any case, if you are keen to have redemption, then a revival is the exact opposite of what the bible predicts.

      3. I don’t actually see anywhere that god has said anything like “australia will have a revival” – perhaps you mean your comment to apply more generally to humanity? again from a statistical point of view, things are not looking promising in the short or medium term.

  6. anonymous-em says:

    hello,
    I also live in australia, and i too have lived in a number of other countries – and one thing that impresses me about Australia is that indeed, it is rather more secular than for example, the usa. There is a wider diversity of religion, but more of the population is secular.

    This means that opinions tend to be based more often on logic and thought – a rational and reasoned assessment of the putative ramifications of any decisions without having to fallaciously invoke the unproved existence of a deity.

    Independence from god is indeed a big one. However, I’ll just quickly point out that you too, are independent from god, all of them. except one. Like me, you reject all other gods and religions..unlike me, you have arbitrarily chosen one of them to accept.

    You’ve incorrectly cited the law in queensland:, and it might be worth pointing out that the existing law, dating from 1899(!) is in serious need of an overhaul to bring it in line with modern (notably, increasingly secular and more logical & reasoned) values. This is particularly evident from the 2000 findings by the “taskforce on women and the criminal code” who revealed that the community generally supported a repeal of the abortion laws.

    I’m not sure where you get your figure of 8 months from – in fact, I have no idea. The current laws permit abortion if the pregnancy may cause physical or mental harm to the mother.

    You then go on to describe how you think the changes to the law, which didn’t happen, caused the floods. Well, I can tell you right now, it was the weather. Not the proposed changes to the law which didn’t happen. Bad weather happens all the time. Catastrophies happen all the time. With or without proposed changes to laws, which don’t even go ahead (and god would already know which laws go ahead and which don’t, because he is aware of future events).

    We are indeed evaluated for our entry into heaven by what we practice – we know this from the bible. It’s a pity, however, that Mahatma Ghandi didn’t realise it. Of course he is now being punished for his failure to worship the correct, and apparently loving, god.

    I also feel that in australia, we need to reject our fear. We no longer need to be a “god-fearing” society. We now have the intelligence, the logical tools, the means by which we can sensibly rationalise an ethical course of action, without having to appeal to a higher power. We have grown up past invoking as fact, mythical stories that applied only to 3000 year old shepherds.

    I personally am not suffering. Or if I am, I don’t notice it which means that in my opinion, I am not suffering. Ipso facto, I maintain that your adherence to something entirely unprovable IS suffering – you are a slave to a “thing” that you cannot understand, define, or even discuss fully. This thing is demonstrably violent, and at times, even hypocritical. Your “thing” scares me.

    There is no need to “repent”. there is every need to simply sit down, ask yourself the REALLY HARD questions. Thinking is all that is required.

    • Unfortunately, though communism crumbled into pieces quite long time ago its ideas invisibly spread around all free world democracies and poisoned millions of minds in developed countries. To point to a few present political leaders Obama, Zapatero also socialist Julia Gillard are under the strong influence of socialist plague. Watching 4-corners I got really shocked at getting to know of Gillard communist affinity during the 80-s. She must have never had in hands any of Alexander Solzhenitsyn books. “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit” Luke 6,43 which perfectly depicts mischievous and corrupted politicians. Taking a closer look at her “achievements” and intentions I feel constraint to express my anxiety and supposition, though unconsciously she for years has been used by the higher intelligence to implant sin into the public sphere of life. John Paul II in the Apostolic Letter Dilecti Amici describes how Satan uses people for his diabolic purposes ““The strategy which he (devil) used and continues to use is that of not revealing himself, so that the evil implanted by him from the beginning may receive its development from man himself, from systems and from relationships between individuals, from classes and nations-so as also to become ever more a “structural” sin, ever less identifiable as “personal” sin. In other words, so that man may feel in a certain sense “freed” from sin but at the same time be ever more deeply immersed in it.” It can explain the difficulty which the Opposition has in order to convince the public of her shortcomings and misdeeds, and fury she gets when criticized.

  7. grass777 says:

    if God was to place judgement on places, He would strike down the Islamic countrys that want to do away with Israel, so to say that God did this because there is not enough christians in Australia is stinkin thinkin, FOLKS

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