Franklin Graham: World’s Christians in Grave Danger

Franklin Graham: World’s Christians in Grave Danger
Posted on March 24, 2011 by Tim

Friday, 18 Mar 2011 05:33 PM

By Chris Gonsalves and Kathleen Walter

The Muslim Brotherhood, with the complicity of the Obama administration, has infiltrated the U.S. government at the highest levels and is influencing American policy that leaves the world’s Christians in grave danger, warns internationally known evangelist Franklin Graham

“The Muslim Brotherhood is very strong and active here in our country,” Graham tells Newsmax. “We have these people advising our military and State Department. We’ve brought in Muslims to tell us how to make policy toward Muslim countries.

“It’s like a farmer asking a fox, ‘How do I protect my hen house?’”

Read More from Newsmax here….

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  1. 4cylracing says:

    just got through reading the comments on Mr. Graham’s comments on the muslims i am going to be real mean and say and say that my Bible does not support a lot of the views i have read find out what islam is all about and you will understand Mr. Grahams comments read Matthew chapter 24 look around you and listen to what Jesus had to say he that has ears to hear let him hear and he that has eyes to see open them

  2. lookinforacity says:

    Hi TIM

    When you say
    “In the end, we are the Lord’s and we will indeed suffer greatly… to the point of extinction, I believe…. and when we reach that point, the Lord will return and we’ll let him deal with the tolerance question.”

    I thought you were of the opinion.
    Mat 24:14
    And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

    If we are preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom unto all the world, when will all of this “our days of free religion are numbered” you speak of be taking place?
    With us being so persecuted by the Muslims, and not being able to practice our religions, even in our own country, how will we ever be able to be preaching it to the world?

    Was the object of your Blog,
    1) To bring attention to the fact our Govt. is being infiltrated?
    2) To bring attention to the future plight of Christians around the world, because of our being infiltrated?

    Question
    3) How do we as Christians, (not the nation), shine this light on their darkness, and put the truth of facts to the lies. Where is our voice for this undertaking, who will speak for Christendom?

    Be Blessed
    JIM

    • Timothy Luke says:


      Dan 7:20-23 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;  Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

       

      This tells me the road ahead is rough, before it is better.

       

      How rough? "unless those days are shortened, there shall no flesh be saved alive," is how Jesus puts it… that means extinction of all – Chrisitian and non-Christian.

       

      We are currently preaching it to the world, even though we are being slaughtered worldwide. In the midst of persecution, the church defies the odds and manages to flourish under ground in many (not all) places.

       

      The point of the blog was two-fold as you have pointed out… I would simply reverse the order listed to show importance I place on it.

       

      We shine the light on the darkness by simply speaking the truth in the face of the propaganda and lies. This doesn't have to be a shouting match. We speak the truth in love and in gentleness and the world does the shouting and accusing….

       

      Hope that clarifies.

       

      Tim

  3. lookinforacity says:

    Hi Tim

    I’m sorry but I can’t swallow the things Bro. Graham is putting forward, he seems to be using a very broad brush. He sounds more like someone who just doesn’t like Obama.

    “We’ve brought in Muslims to tell us how to make policy toward Muslim countries.”

    “It’s like a farmer asking a fox, ‘How do I protect my hen house?’”

    Couldn’t we say exactly the same thing has taken place with the appointing of Wall Street executives to head up and run the Federal Reserve or even as Treasury Secretary.
    Robert Rubin, of Goldman Sachs
    Henry M. Paulson, of Goldman Sachs

    Isn’t it rather naive to think our Gov. should make policy toward Muslim countries, without any input from Muslims?

    1) Do we have documentation about the people who are advising our military and State Department?
    2) Is it true they belong to “The Muslim Brotherhood”?
    3) Where is the Press in this, aren’t they asking theses questions for us?
    4) Is the Press reporting, there are known members of “The Muslim Brotherhood” in these positions?

    When Graham says the events we see taking place in the Middle East, could force millions of Christians to flee for their lives. With 11 million Christians living in Egypt, wouldn’t that constitute genocide if persecution on a grand scale happened?

    When we read
    “More than 75 percent of religious persecution in the world is currently being carried out against Christians.”

    Isn’t that a given?
    I mean in the Western, or so called Christian Nations, we will not tolerate the abuses seen in the Communist, Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist countries. “They do.”
    These Religions, do not send Missionaries to our countries to convert Christians to their religions, as the West has for over 100yrs.
    But we on the other hand, have exported our Religions, and our Politics all in the name of humanitarian betterment, but in the end, doesn’t it all only come down to economics and trade.

    Aren’t we told in the Bible
    Joh 15:18,19
    18) If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
    19) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

    1Pe 4:12-14
    12) Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
    13) But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
    14) If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

    Is this statement made by F. Graham then, the voice or Religious Tolerance, which we expect to hear from other countries?
    Where then is the difference in the rhetoric, isn’t this a double standard?

    “We certainly love the Muslim people,” Graham said in an earlier interview with Newsmax. “But that is not the faith of this country. And that is not the religion that built this nation. The people of the Christian faith and the Jewish faith are the ones who built America, and it is not Islam.”

    Don’t get me wrong TIM, I’m not saying we should give them the store, but if we want them to treat us with respect, shouldn’t we also be tolerant of them.
    I am of the opinion the Mosque should not be built within 10 mi. of ground zero, or that we should start observing Ramadan, that would be rubbing our noses in it. But to let them observe their beliefs, even if they are wrong in private, they have that right.
    I think were mainly speaking of the Muslim countries, we will always have persecution of Christians in those Countries, persecution is part of the package, maybe instead of worrying about it, we should help our brothers
    flee those countries, for better lives in western countries, where their standard of living would be higher.

    Be Blessed
    JIM

    • Timothy Luke says:

      “But to let them observe their beliefs, even if they are wrong in private, they have that right.”

      That is the point Jim. They may observe their beliefs in private, but when they become the majority, they do not set well with remaining private. Their religion demands the extermination of Jews and Christians. Their religion does not give many, if any, guarantees of salvation, unless it be through killing of non-Muslims as an act of martyrdom.

      When it comes to Franklin Graham’s comments about Muslims in the administration, why would you think he is coming from left field? His missions serve Christians and Muslims alike all around the world. He knows the difference between “extreme” and “tolerant” muslims.

      It is good to note 75% of victims of persecution is toward Christians. The world would keep that a quiet statistic. It would also be helpful to clarify that the other 25% is not Christian against others… It is others against others. Atheist Communists are equal opportunity destroyers and imprison other religions. Hindus and Muslims also have been know to attack each other. I would love to know what percentage of persecution is carried out in the name of Christianity….

      Being tolerant of those who are intolerant is not the answer. It merely puts off the day of reckoning. Does this mean we physically assault Muslims? No. But we should be able to shine the light on their darkness and put the truth of facts to the lies. In the end, we are the Lord’s and we will indeed suffer greatly… to the point of extinction, I believe…. and when we reach that point, the Lord will return and we’ll let him deal with the tolerance question.

      • lookinforacity says:

        Hi TIM

        What the thrust of the comments Graham made were in regard to
        1) The Muslim Brotherhood
        2) The infiltration of the U.S. Gov. by the T.M.B. and the influencing of American policy because of it.
        3) The placing of Christians around the world in grave danger, because of this infiltration.
        4) Can his remarks be documented,

        Your statement
        “but when they become the majority, they do not set well with remaining private.”

        While what you say is the truth, where are we speaking of, that we should be worried of them becoming the majority?
        Within Muslim countries, they are the majority, and they do persecute Christians, that’s a given.

        you say
        “why would you think he is coming from left field?”

        My contention is, he sounds as though he is privy to information, can he back up those statements?
        As far as that goes, I know the difference as well between “extreme” and “tolerant” Muslims.
        There are extremists in all religions, that give the religion as a whole a bad name.
        “Westboro Baptist church” I for one do not appreciate the image they paint of what Christians are like, need I say more. Ok I know they aren’t blowing people up, but if they could find it in the bible, I am sure they would be. An extremist by any other name is still CRAZY.

        You say
        75% of victims of persecution is toward Christians, you also mention Atheist Communists, Hindus, and Muslims, then you raise the question.
        “I would love to know what percentage of persecution is carried out in the name of Christianity”

        In answer
        All I can say is our day has passed, but we managed to do as good a job at killing, torturing, etc. as those doing it today in the name of Allah, or Whoever. Brief history follows, of what I would call the Christian Jihad, effectively against Muslims, Jews, Protestants, and finally Catholics, it seems that whoever had the political power of the time, used it to quiet the voices of opposition. This is what we see in the Muslim, Hindu, Communist nations today.
        Maybe we, the Christian community, had been the unwitting architect of what we see today. Christians exported this phenomenon, around the known world of the time, ie, the persecution of others for their Religious beliefs.
        The die has been cast, we cannot undo, or rewrite the history of the world, they of the past have sown the wind, and we of today are reaping the whirlwind.

        Great Crusades: (1080-1300)
        (Mainly against the Muslims)

        Spanish Inquisition: 1478-1834
        (Mainly against the Jews)

        Early Modern period: (1500 to 1815)
        Anti-Catholic: (1534
        Persecution of the Anabaptists: (1555
        Anti-Protestant: (1572
        Anti-Eastern Orthodox: (1656

        I’m not advocating the turning of the other cheek to Muslims, they don’t operate under the same rules of human dignity that we have to, therefore we do not owe it to them to turn the cheek. Our position toward them is to PRAY for those that despitefully use us, while they take advantage of our beliefs using them against us.

        At this point I have come to a question.
        How do we as Christians, (not the nation), shine this light on their darkness, and put the truth of facts to the lies. Where is our voice for this undertaking, who will speak for Christendom?

        Be Blessed
        JIM

        • Timothy Luke says:

          Jim, I wish you wouldn’t make me have to work for this! 🙂

          You can Google response heading and pull up sources. Below is one…

          “The most prominent Islamic organizations in the United States are all controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood,” said FBI veteran John Guandolo, who worked several Brotherhood-related terror cases out of the bureau’s Washington field office as a special agent after 9/11.

          Read the inside story about plans to put America under Shariah, in “Muslim Mafia.”

          While the FBI has cut off ties to some of the well-established organizations, many others continue to participate in outreach programs with the Homeland Security and Justice departments, the former special agent says. Some of their leaders are even advising the government on how to respond to events in Egypt and elsewhere.

          Read more: FBI: Muslim Brotherhood deeply rooted inside U.S.

        • Timothy Luke says:

          In response to your lists of when “Christians” have been in power, I would say that we need to make a distinction in true followers of Christ and those who hide their fleshly desires and human nature and need to be “righteous” behind the banner of religion.

          It would be non-sensical to argue that Christians are the “architects” of the persecution of today, given the persecution of Babylon against Shadrach, Meshack and Abednego and Daniel… among others. Satan is the author of persecution and mayhem… I think you will agree.

          When you write: “All I can say is our day has passed, but we managed to do as good a job at killing, torturing, etc. as those doing it today,”

          I do not claim the brutality of other’s abuses by putting them under the heading of “our”. It is not mine and will not be my heritage. By the grace of God, I acknowledge these things as sin and do not claim the sin of others as my own. To broad stroke Christianity into these evil camps and make us all guilty of it, when we were not there historically to oppose it (how many Christians were not in agreement with the gov’t policies that sparked these outrages? Can we not claim true Christianity as our heritage?) is to legitimize the raping and murdering of Christians and the destruction of their properties of today, regardless of how peaceful they are, is it not?

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. My point in this is that we do not need to be opening our doors for policy making to those who are opposed to who we are fundamentally as a nation. Yes, Muslims live among us. Yes they are peaceful. But… give them the upper hand and a written code that says to kill and lie to all apostates, and you have a recipe for further bloodshed on our soil, and we will be the fodder.

          As I stated before, this is not a call to arms, it is a statement that our days of free religion are numbered, because we have not honored God in our society and have kicked Him out of the public square, as though HE were the villain and not our Hero.

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