This spirit seeks to hide itself, seduce, intimidate, manipulate, murder and trade in human souls.
Some people talk about the "Jezebel" spirit because this is the kind of spirit that was working powerfully through Queen Jezebel, a Sidonian princess who married King Ahab of Israel, and killed so many prophets of God. The woman Jezebel is mentioned also in the book of Revelation, chapter 2, verse 20 in the context of the church of Thyatira. Here she is called a false prophetess, a teacher of sexual immorality. It would seem here again that Jezebel is the name of a person who comes under the influence of this spirit, because the Lord says he gave her time to repent.
The Queen of Heaven/Jezebel/Mystery Babylon/Harlot Spirit is a very religious spirit, but it promotes religious things that are contrary to God. Jezebel promotes fleshly indulgence amongst God's people and shuns the cross.
The Jezebel spirit is the enemy of the true prophets of the Lord. The book of Revelation has a chapter almost exclusively devoted to exposing this spirit - Chapter 17. In this chapter we read that the woman is drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. (Revelation 17:6). So this spirit especially hates and seeks to murder righteous people and those who speak faithfully the Word of the Lord, just as Jezebel the wife of Ahab was responsible for most of the true prophets of Yahweh in her day (1 Kings 18:13)
This evil power is also exposed in the book of Isaiah, chapter 47
"Come down and sit in the dust,
O virgin daughter of Babylon;
Sit on the ground without a throne,
O daughter of the Chaldeans!
For you shall no more be called
Tender and delicate.
2Take the millstones and grind meal.
Remove your veil,
Take off the skirt,
Uncover the thigh,
Pass through the rivers.
3Your nakedness shall be uncovered,
Yes, your shame will be seen;
I will take vengeance,
And I will not arbitrate with a man."
4As for our Redeemer, the LORD of hosts is His name,
The Holy One of Israel.
5"Sit in silence, and go into darkness,
O daughter of the Chaldeans;
For you shall no longer be called
The Lady of Kingdoms.
6I was angry with My people;
I have profaned My inheritance,
And given them into your hand.
You showed them no mercy;
On the elderly you laid your yoke very heavily.
7And you said, "I shall be a lady forever,'
So that you did not take these things to heart,
Nor remember the latter end of them.
8"Therefore hear this now, you who are given to pleasures,
Who dwell securely,
Who say in your heart, "I am, and there is no one else
besides me;
I shall not sit as a widow,
Nor shall I know the loss of children';
9But these two things shall come to you
In a moment, in one day:
The loss of children, and widowhood.
They shall come upon you in their fullness
Because of the multitude of your sorceries,
For the great abundance of your enchantments.
10 "For you have trusted in your wickedness;
You have said, "No one sees me';
Your wisdom and your knowledge have warped you;
And you have said in your heart,
"I am, and there is no one else besides me.'
11Therefore evil shall come upon you;
You shall not know from where it arises.
And trouble shall fall upon you;
You will not be able to put it off.
And desolation shall come upon you suddenly,
Which you shall not know.
12"Stand now with your enchantments
And the multitude of your sorceries,
In which you have labored from your youth--
Perhaps you will be able to profit,
Perhaps you will prevail.
13You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the astrologers, the stargazers,
And the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.
14Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!
15Thus shall they be to you
With whom you have labored,
Your merchants from your youth;
They shall wander ea
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the jezebelic spirit
'For, as I have often told you before and say again even with tears, MANY live as enemies of the cross of Christ'. This is a key verse in recognising and dealing with the jezebelic spirit. In the ranks of the church of Jesus Christ, many love Jesus well enough, but are nevertheless still 'enemies of the cross'! That's because the cross speaks of self sacrifice; Dying to our selfish and fleshly desires (including the desire to 'be someone of importance among Gods people'!) Let's Allow Jesus to truly live within us by the person and power of his dear Holy Spirit.
It may well be that deliverance will be requied to help one rid oneself of such a demonic influence as the jesebelic spirit, but I would suggest you first embrace the cross of christ and become a servant to Gods people.In this endeavour you may find that the spirit will leave you (it can't abide true servanthood!)or it will fight you to the point of desperation. Gods purpose in this is to drive you into that place where you call out to the Lord to save you, at which point the Lord can deliver you from the jezebelic spirit and where you can become a ministry gift to others. God bless and keep you.
daughter has jezebel spirit
my daughter has this spirit but drs diganosed her as bi polar which includes some of the same symptoms - she has been confined at least 10 times to mental hosp - as long as she stays on meds she is ok - lately she has been acting out again saying she is caled to be a prophet, but she dresses too sexy for church, she has 2 teen age daughters and now she has convinced a friend to let her move from calif to fla with these 2 girls - one is very strong and is able to stand up against her mom she went thru the dreamcenter program in los angeles - its mainly the other daughter i am concerned about - she is very passive and does not confront her mom - and now my daughter says this daughter is seeing and hearing demons and that is her ministry(?) - this daughter is 18 and has a chance here to go to art school on a scolarship but daughter wants to take her all the way back to fla where she does not know anyone - she led a friend to the Lord and they were best friends - i am really scared for this grandchild but have no way to stop her from going - she was living with a man - this is another of her habits - she finds a man with money and literaly cleans them out - so he is now broke so she is off again - friend in fla is a fine christian lady who has raised 6 kids on her own and did take care of my daughter when last child was born but that was before she suffered mental breakdown - confusing for me because she was diagnosed bi polar yet exhibits symptoms of jezelbel spirit - her last husband said she had this spirit - she blames him for all kinds of things he never did and now she is blaming state of calif for all her problams and kids - while she was in hosp - kids were in foster care for several years - long story - she has a son who is 20 and wants nothing to do with her, and an older daughter who is sister to daughter i am worried about and she lives with her dad in tenn - i would rather see younger daughter go live with her dad as he is a christian as is older sister than stay with her mom who may bring her down - what do we do
The Local Church "Prophet"
Hello all,
Have enjoyed reading your postings...and yes, the sweety.com PDF is an incredible read...we have had a problem with the Jezebel Spirit in our church...many charismatic/evangelical churches do, because of the focus on "gifts" of Spirit...soon enough, someone decides that they are the "prophecy master" or even worse.. a "Prophet"...once this happens, you are going to be in for quite a battle, because now these well meaning but deluded individuals now believe that they have a special gift and have some special status and many times are able to convince "weaker" brother and sisters of this fake gift...
here is how to spot them...
1. They will be out of order...they are so intent on giving their prophecy that they can't control themselves --- and will take any chance possible to use their gift...open mike? Not for long...not once the "prophet" gets going...long winded, drawn out, emotional, acting credits should be issued..."thus sayeth the Looooooorrrrrdddd"
2. There is always a performance, without a performance, there can't be any compliments after service...Jezebel LOVES compliments and is really seeking the compliments of men/women.
3. No real substance --- most of the performance will be the "Prophet" reciting or ready scripture, but with gusto..even tears...but no new information..."God is calling this city for himself" "God is doing a new thing" and stuff like that...
4. MIS application of scriptures - "the gifts and callings of the Lord are without repentance" okay, how did that get turned into THEM being able to hold the Church hostage for another one of their ego feeds? Their gift is so powerful, that they just can't contain what the Lord has for the Church today...no repentance needed...
5. Christianese and non relational behavior --- go hand in hand...
6. Many of these individuals are really gifted at teaching the Word or serving...but have gone for the bait...it's a gift don't you know...every notice that true Prophets of the Lord never say "I am a Prophet" or I have this gift or that gift...no one seems to have the gift or driving the Sunday school bus or picking up trash (well, real servants do)...it's away the grand stand...
7. Sadly, many times these individuals will be older ladies, Deacons, or fringe Pastors...very hard to control/contain...
You can pray them to be silent...
Just some thoughts on the issue...
Jezabel / Ahab Spirit
Our church is having a problem with this. I have been burdened with all of it and have talked to the correct people in the church about it.However,they seem to be afraid to confront these members.I feel like GOD is pushing me to do it .It is because of these people that I had stopped going to church.I need prayers and correct guidence in doing the right thing.I know I am about to upset many in the church,however I am afraid not to.Our church will fall if something is not done and done soon.
Melissa, I am sorry you are
Melissa, I am sorry you are in such a position. I have found the times when I feel the most righteous and the most provoked to speak into a situation that it may not be the Lord. Double check your approach with the Word.
Have these people sinned against you? Have you gone to these people privately? If so, then it is time to go to the church. It sounds like "the correct people" are ones in authority. If these in authority will not confront, do you have their blessing to confront on your own personal level of being affected by their sin?
When you say, "they SEEM to be afraid to confront these members" is it fear, or do you think they may be letting things come to a point, or waiting on God's timing to address it?
I am trying to give you some guideposts for your decision and I hope these questions help bring clarity. If we are not careful, we become the prophets who cry out when no one has sent us and become what we are seeking to overcome in others.
"Father, thank you for inviting us to freely come in our times of ignorance and need when you say 'if any lack wisdom, let him ask of God who gives to all liberally... Our sister needs wisdom and she needs clarity and peace on what you would have her do or say in this situation. Please make your will to her clear on how, or if, you would have her address this in her church. We pray Lord for her church that you would bring healing and light and deliver them from the designs of the evil one who would sow discord and pride in the flock. We ask this in Jesus' name, amen."
I'll be happy to help work through the thought process on this if you like to discuss it further.
Blessings and Peace,
Timothy
You say it so right. I do
You say it so right. I do believe that you must serve the Lord humbly, having time for the people who are deserted and lonely. The ones that have gone through deep waters. No help standing on the grand stand and saying a lot of non-sensical things.
If you've got some free time
If any of you have got some free time, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could help me with my problem. I posted about it in prayer requests. Thank you so much.
-Samm
Confused #$@%^&*())
To make a long story short, I have a friend who seems to really love God, but definitely has this spirit. I moved to a new church (w/out her) about 6 mths later....here she comes. My biggest question is....she apparently gave a word last Sunday and the Pastor encouraged her.... why does God choose to use people like this?????? And why doesn't my Pastor's have discernment????? --I mean to confront? I can't hardly stand to be around her.. course everyone else gets the nice ____ and I get the other personality with the jezebel... HELP
RE:Confused
Your pastor most likely discerned the prophetic spirit within her....A Jezebel spirit is prophetic but it comes not from God....A Jezebel spirit does not announce to everyone ""Hey, it's me Jezebel"....She will slowly reveal herself and others will either come under her spell or else cannot stand to be around her..Those who discern something is wrong will complain to the leadership and if the leadership is wimpy and does not confront the spirit they (the discerners) will get tired of the deceit/drama and leave the church...Who knows?????Maybe things were revealing this spirit at your last church and she left....If she does not go through deliverance and keeps running when she is revealed, she is racking more havoc in her life....The sad thing is that most people do not realize they have this spirit...They think, I am a strong, prophetic person and people just do not understand me...Woo is me and they leave and go to another church....
I also feel demonic spirits
I also feel demonic spirits and see them i feel them in my own body. Everyday and night my heart is soo hard ive been everywere for counsel and prayer and in this scripture when i read it it also says all the counsel you have has worn me out.
I know exactly how you feel.
I know exactly how you feel. Overwhelmed, oppressed... and the list could go on. When this feeling starts you have to take control of it immediately. Say this The Lord haas given me power to trample on serpents and scorpions and over all the powers of the enemy and nothing shall bt any means hurt me. However I donot rejoice because the spirits submit to me but I rejoice because my name is written in the lambs book of life.
Rebuke those spirits in the name of Jesus and the have to go. Say it over and over until you feel they are 100% gone. Remind them where thier place is in hell burning for eternity. These spirits just want to torment you and pull you away from our Lord. Don't let them, instead dig deeper into God's word. You will get stronger. This is just a period in your life where God will build you up stronger. Allow Him to. Don't be scared get mad at the devil and his evil spirits. They are powerless and liars. If you ever need prayer, contact me at lproberts2005@yahoo.com. I have went through this. You will be okay, hun. Trust our heavenly Father.
demonic spirits
I am helping my daughter with the same problem right now but she opened herself up to it by getting involved in wicca for years even though she was raised in a strong Christian home. If you did not open yourself up in such a serious way wich now requires outside help like my daughter....you can get online and find awesome prayers for:(deliverance prayers/self-deliverance prayers/spiritual warfare prayers) that you say daily as many times as you want a day, and it will have to be a comittment but you will eventually discover that there is a change and you continue until you are totally free, spend time watching some good Christian tv programs, get into a good bible based church, and begin to soak up the Bible and read, read, read....Jesus is alive and you will find Him and feel Him in there and it will choke the life out of anything evil as you are filled with His love, peace, and comfort. Also get rid of all of your music c.d.'s (and replace it with christian music only), remove ouiji boards, tarot cards, jewlry that has occult symbols even owls & frogs are known to attract the demonic as well as dragons, serpents, wizards, etc.
Pray to Jesus about this burden, just talk to Him and ask as you would your dearest and most trusted friend because that is exactly what He is...., He is your dearest and most trusted friend, He will never let us down, NEVER!
Do You Not Know
Do you not know that satan and demons can use scripture against you?????God is too big, too loving, too caring, to say to you the counsel you have gone to has worn Me out....God does not get tired nor does He stop hearing your prayers, nor does He want you to accept these lies..He has not stopped loving you from the moment you were conceived to this day and toevery day beyond......You are His special creation and He knows everything about you no matter how big or small you may think it is ....
I just recently realize that
I just recently realize that this is a spirt that I have had for a long time.I thank GOD right now for the deliverance from this. I am going to change and I know that it is going to be a process but I beleive that nothing is to hard for GOD. So if anyone can help with some information and or some bible verses that will help me along the way..Please keep me in your prayers and I'll keep you in mind.
I know i have this spirit I
I know i have this spirit I dont know how to get rid of It or How do get right with God again.I felt it the day it entered me.I heard the speak over depart daughter of inquity i never knew you i have seen hell ever since the other day God showed me isaih 47 I can t repent
Re: I know I Have This Spirit
With God there is no such word as I can't....You are being fooled to think that you can't....Your heavenly Father knows all about you and is able to do much more than we can even imagine...I looked up Isaiah 47 and it has to do with occult Babylon....You are thinking this is me....If you have been into witchcraft, horoscopes, ect you must take a step forward and repent of these sins....You must not accept the Jezebel spirit and think I cannot get rid of it....It is your mind that says you can't but your heart is saying I must and you must stop listening to the lies from Satan that are coming into your mind and listen to your heart that God is speaking through...With God all things are possible....Do not be afraid to tell a Spirit filled pastor/ deliverance team and they will help you...
Hi, I stumbled across this
Hi,
I stumbled across this .. because of this same reason I feel that this spirit has ran my life. Your answer was to read Isaiah 47 I've recently read this seeking an answer. The ending to this says no one can save you. I feel everyone has tried to save me. And I pray but that this may make it harder. My heart is hardened .. how can I truly ask Jesus to save me if I have no love in return. Not just for him but the others around me.
Crystal, here is some GREAT
Crystal, here is some GREAT NEWS!
The ending of Isaiah 47 says that none of the devil's kingdom can save you, BUT this is enclosed in a chapter that is calling you back to your Redeemer. Isa 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Jesus Christ came to redeem ALL who will come to Him.
The devil wants to deceive you into believing your heart is hardened, but this is a LIE. If your heart were hardened, there would be no conflict. You would have ZERO desire to know Jesus Christ and be set free.
God is not willing that ANY perish, that includes you my friend.
More Good News! - - The fact you have a desire to come to Jesus is witness to another amazing fact - - God Himself is drawing you.
Even MORE GOOD NEWS - - God wants you to become fruitful and blessed in your life, where once you were barren!
Now, to answer your question. How can I truly ask Jesus to save me if I have no love? Crystal, I know I sound like a bad commercial, but "wait, there's MORE!"
God is love. He is our source. Without God none of us has true love for anybody. You are just like everyone else who has ever been saved! It is the love of God that flows through us as His Spirit dwells in us that brings love and life to our hearts, minds and bodies. You stand in need of a Savior, and the awesome thing is, YOU KNOW IT! You could not know it if He did not show you the deficit. How could I know I was blind if someone did not tell me there was sight to be had? He is drawing you and He is faithful and just to cleanse you of ALL unrighteousness as you confess it. He is also faithful who has begun a good work in you to complete it unto the end. He began it when He put that hunger and thirst in your heart for Him.
Do not dispair, you are on your way out of the prison house. The evil spirit(s) that hold you, coming from of your occultic involvement, are hazing you on your way out, but you must go forward and you must not stop til you are outside the prison gates sister. (I am assuming you are female, correct me if I am wrong)
Crystal, I will pray for you here under the assumption you are in agreement. If you are not in agreement, this prayer will not stand. If you are in agreement, hell cannot stand against it....
"Father in heaven, I am a sinner in need of salvation. My heart does not love, and it does not know how to love. I stand before you condemned to die in my sin. I looked to a false god for my salvation and searched his kingdom for answers for my life. Please forgive me for every promise or oath I have made to Satan's kingdom. I renounce ALL involvement I have had with occultism. I have contacted agents of evil who desire to hold me captive to darkness Lord God, and I repent to you and admit my need for you to deliver me from the evil one, according to your Word. The kingdom of darkness is greater than I am, but you alone are so much more GREATER than the darkness. Save me from the darkness and lead me in your Light, Holy Father. I give my life to you to do your will not mine from this day forward. Create in me a clean heart and grant me your Holy Spirit that I may have Love and Joy and Peace in my life like I've never known before. Thank you for being my Savior and my Redeemer. In Jesus' name I pray, amen."
Here is a prayer I pray for you and with you....
"Our Father in heaven, I thank you for calling Crystal to yourself. You are so faithful and loving. You will never leave nor forsake your child. The enemy does not want to lose her, but in the name of Jesus, I break the power of the enemy to rule and control Crystal. Crystal is not your property. You did not create her, and you certainly do not love her. In the name of Jesus Christ I command the prison doors to open and I speak LIFE to her. In the name of Jesus Christ I declare 'death where is your sting? and grave, where is your victory?' My sister shall not die, but live and proclaim the mighty works of the Lord! In Jesus' name, amen!"
If you would like to have someone pray with you and go over some scripture just let me know. tim@perfectinglove.com
Blessings and Peace,
Timothy
Hi Timothy, Thank you ..
Hi Timothy,
Thank you .. alot. These things bring me comfort. Curious what your take is on the situation where someone is saved by praying once but never had there spiritual blindfold removed. Does this mean they turned away from christ and rejected him? Or does this mean you will actually always belong to him? To bring up another subject what is your take on the great harlot. I have understanding that it is a church. But that it may actually indeed be talking about a women as well. Is the Jezebel spirit this women? I feel as though my spirit runs loose from me and does unthinkable things that I can not control. Most things that I know nothing of. In every day life I feel there are things that happen that pertain to myself. I have also heard once you cleanse yourself and fall short of god that seven bad spirits enter. Does this mean that your whole spirit is corrupt ? Or do those bad spirits seperate from you when you leave?
Thank You
Christy, God's Word is Very Comforting
Christy, God's Word is very comforting to those who surrender to Him. I am so glad it brings you comfort and hope! Dwell on the confirmation His Word brings for you sister and don't let go - ever.
I am happy to share my thoughts with you. I will box each question separately and answer them. This is lengthy, but I desire to give each one adequate detail for the sake of you and others who will read it later...
Your next question is shorter.
This is as you have noted, a spirit that is gone out in the world. Any church that lets it rule in it is subject to the judgment of Jezebel. This also applies individually. We need to examine our hearts and judge ourselves lest we be judged. There are sincere Christians in large churches (plural) that are mislead and misleading. These Christians would do well in their walk with the Lord to find green pastures without all the wolves! In naming a church as the great harlot may cause some to judge all people in that church as evil or unsaved. I believe there is a spiritual remnant in many denominations that may be run in the flesh. Personally, if I am in a denomination that I see is being run in the flesh, and I desire to walk in the spirit, that is my sign that it is time to move my campsite to another location if the leadership is not open to change.
This concept is a corruption that comes from a passage in Luke 11:20-28
When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
You bring up a great topic. We are a spirit, we have a soul, and we live in a body. An evil spirit can attach itself to our lives, but it does not become one with our spirit. If we are in agreement with it, we can yeild to it and it can overcome us and inhabit us, but our spirit is always separate before God. We will have to answer for how we keep God's temple. Have we purged it, or do we live with the pigs?
This passage brings much fear to some. Taken without faith in the Good Shepherd to guide, deliver and keep us, we can be afraid to ever sin once we have been delivered of an evil spirit. This fear keeps some from seeking deliverance in the first place...
I believe Jesus is not saying that as soon as we sin we are overtaken sevenfold. I believe if we tie this in with Ephesians 4:26-27, "Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil," we can safely say if we acknowledge our sin and repent quickly, the Lord will forgive us and cleanse us and shield us from repossession. If we however return to that sin and embrace it once more, then we are as a dog returning to its vomit - 2 Peter 2:22 - and the end is worse than the beginning.
If you are coming out of occultic involvement, HURRAY!! These critters (devils are created beings and 'critter' is short for 'creature') are used to having you as their property, so they will often challenge us for the right to remain in control. If we slip and give in to their fear and control, we can repent and pick ourselves up again and walk in the Lord. "Though the RIGHTEOUS stumble seven times, the Lord shall lift him up." When we have given our lives to Him, we are under His covering of righteousness. We are righteous when we fall... we are righteous when our face is in the mud, and we are righteous when he hears our call and cleanses us and sets us back on our feet.
Do you spank a toddler for falling? Nor does our Lord condemn us as we take the baby steps on the road to righteousness. He is there to make intercession on our behalf, not condemn us when we do the inevitable as babes. Do you have children? May the Lord one day bless you so, if you do not. I have a 20 month old daughter. Do I get angry when she poops her diaper? No way! Is it pleasant to clean up? No, can't say that it is!! But, I separate her from her poopy diaper. I love my children and have changed diapers for all of them. I want them fresh and clean and happy. As children of God, it is inevitable that we will 'poop our diapers' with sin. We can run away from God and keep our dirty diapers, and get the most horrific diaper rash, or we can come and confess our sin and let him take care of the problem. He is not ashamed of us, or our sin, he just wants you and I free sister. He doesn't condemn us any more than we condemn a baby, but we must come to Him.
If they check us out, it will often be with temptation to sin, or temptation to buy a lie about God, ourselves or others in the form of accusation, envy, bitterness, fear, etc.The evil spirits leave for good and don't come back when they are convinced that we are serious about our walk with the Lord and when we resist the devil, he will flee. Hence Jesus' words at the end, "blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
Have you done astral projection? Are you saying you are having out of body experiences? I will answer, but please clarify that for me if you would.
"the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets," 1 Corinthians 14:32. The Holy Spirit does not override a Christian's will and burst out uncontrollably. Your spirit is under your command. If you have given control over to an evil spirit the good news is you can give control back over to Jesus Christ! There are evil spirits who may project themselves and their insights and experiences into our lives if we have opened ourselves up to that level - or if someone over us has opened us up to that level. It is their sin, not yours in such a case. You need deliverance from such critters.
Sister, I would love to continue this discussion as you seem to have many questions that I and others here may have insight into. It is my hope you abide here, as Ruth gleaned in Boaz' field, until you find the rest and peace for your soul here that the Lord has for you!
Blessings and Peace,
Timothy
Christy, God loves you more
Christy, God loves you more than you know!
On the issue with the spiritual blindfold. I prayed for Jesus to come into my heart once before and I feel he gave me the choice. I was inside my apartment when three drops of water fell on my forehead. And I know I had the choice to take my blindfold off .. but I'm pretty sure I turned from him. Do you have any idea why I am rejecting Christ to take over my life.
Romans 8:1-10 says this:
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Here is the deal we ALL face. The specific outworking of our salvation and our resistance to it are unique to each of us, but what we all have in common is that without Christ our minds are in conflict with Him. So it is that before receiving Christ, we are called to make a De-Cision. [an incision is cutting into, circumcision is cutting around, a decision is a cutting off. When Cortez came to America, he set his ships ablaze in the harbor. He did this to cut off the option of returning to the old world.] You, my sister, are standing in the harbor wondering why you don't want to burn the boat and be stuck in the new world Jesus offers you. It is natural, that's all. This is where your will comes in - to say, "it doesn't matter how Christy 'feels' about Jesus, I Christy choose to walk with Him for the rest of my days and my carnal mind and all my feelings are just going to have to be subject to my choice to follow Jesus and keep His commandments!"
You said you weren't ready for Jesus earlier when the three drops fell in your apartment. Are you ready for Him now? He hasn't gotten a bad attitude over your rejection - He was used to you rejecting Him. But now, while it is today and while you still care, TRUST HIM. Cast your cares upon Him, for He cares for you!
Myself I desire good and have hated the bad things in life. I have felt the holy spirit in my presence some time after this. But my blindfold may have still been on at that time. I want to desperately lift up my spirit to the lord and be thankful for the life he's given me. How do I go about truly asking Jesus to lift the blindfold and for the holy spirit to dwell with me?
The only "true" way to ask Jesus to lift the blindfold is "sincerely". That word comes from the latin that means "without wax". When pottery was sold, some covered flaws and breaks with wax and the buyer was stuck with it. When we come to Jesus, we are to come without pretense.
Another thing when the water fell .. does this mean I belong to Christ?If God gives us a sign, He gives us the meaning. You belong to Christ if you have asked Him to be Lord of your life and you walk in the spirit, not the flesh as we read in Romans 8.
Another how do we know if we bear good or bad fruit?To begin with, we all bear good and bad fruit as our journey begins. As we become sanctified by being in the Word, talking with God and obeying, the good fruit will show up. Galatians 5:14-25.
But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
If I am bad fruit .. this means I am going to be cast into fire for eternity?
You are making a mistake here. You are not your fruit any more than a vine is its grapes. Abide in Christ and He will abide in you and you will bear much fruit. The devil likes to tempt us to sin, then when we sin he points out how vile we are and how God cannot tolerate us.
We are not our sin. Our sin is not us. Sin is not an identity issue for those who are in Jesus Christ. I may be a sinner, but I am not sin. I can be separated from my sin by the grace and blood of Jesus. Its back to changing the poopy diaper. A baby is not a poopy diaper, though a baby may have a poopy diaper. Don't let the devil con you into thinking you are an evil person just because you may have done evil things....
If he can get us to believe our case is hopeless, we surrender and he wins. You my sister are NOT hopeless! Looking at Galatians 5, Do you see fruits of God's spirit in your life?
{An evil spirit can attach itself to our lives, but it does not become one with our spirit.}
Does this mean if we bear bad fruit because these other spirits dwell within us that those are what may be cast into the fire?
We are each responsible for our sins. When we give place to the devil, we must confess our sins and repent and get back on track with God. If we repent, we are cleansed and are free to start our walk anew in Christ. If we give place to the devil and do not repent, we will be partakers of the divine punishment. The Bible tells us the devil and his angels will be cast into the Lake of Fire. The question is, are we going to serve them - read Romans 6:14-23.
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Blessings and Peace,
Timothy
Hi Again Tim, On the issue
Hi Again Tim,
On the issue with the spiritual blindfold. I prayed for Jesus to come into my heart once before and I feel he gave me the choice. I was inside my apartment when three drops of water fell on my forehead. And I know I had the choice to take my blindfold off .. but I'm pretty sure I turned from him. Do you have any idea why I am rejecting Christ to take over my life. Myself I desire good and have hated the bad things in life. I have felt the holy spirit in my presence some time after this. But my blindfold may have still been on at that time. I want to desperately lift up my spirit to the lord and be thankful for the life he's given me. How do I go about truly asking Jesus to lift the blindfold and for the holy spirit to dwell with me? Another thing when the water fell .. does this mean I belong to Christ?
Another how do we know if we bear good or bad fruit?
If I am bad fruit .. this means I am going to be cast into fire for eternity?
{An evil spirit can attach itself to our lives, but it does not become one with our spirit.}
Does this mean if we bear bad fruit because these other spirits dwell within us that those are what may be cast into the fire?
23Then said Jesus unto his
23Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
- Matthew 19:23-26
This is about a rich man that trust in riches, but I feel this applies to you and anyone that feels like they cannot be save.
The key part of this is what Peter says in vs. 25 and even more importantly what Jesus responds to him with.
Crystal, our Father and Creator loves you. He is not willing that you should perish, my challenge to you is to trust in the passage above and rely on nothing more than the unmatched and unconditional grace of God. I hope this helps, we all will be praying for you.
EVERY single one of these
EVERY single one of these posts FORGET the MOST IMPORTANT thing!!! SALVATION!! Without truly knowing the Lord you can continue doing whatever you want to get rid of these spirits, but it wont work. You MUST accept the Lord Jesus! NEVER listen to your heart. The Bible says your HEART IS EVIL..never go with emotion, think rationally, clearly.FIRST step is to PRAY. Ask the Lord to show you what salvation is. BUT, you must mean it. He will not answer you if you are not truly wanting to know. SECOND, go to a pastor and ask about salvation. If he doesn't know what you are talking about or stumbles around and can't answer your questions, RUN and go somewhere else!! Try reading your Bible, God answers people through His Word..
I want to be free from this
I want to be free from this spirit i have tried everything.Repentance is a gift right?I just want to be right with God again.
Deliverance
Deliverance must be top priority on your list of things to do.....Sometimes it is hard to find a deliverance ministry but until you go for deliverance when thoughts and accusations come to your mind start singing "Jesus Loves Me This I Know".....Sing it over and over until you know that yes indeed Jesus loves me.... You must accept the fact that you are greatly loved and reject the lies that you have accepted as fact....
Jezebel spirit
This commentary is fascinating! I had never been aware of the Jezebel spirit until a friend spoke to me about it. I then became curious as to what in my own life potrayed this seductive spirit, the list of comparisons goes on! Thankfully, my mother has always pleaded the protection of the Blood of Christ over our family. She has done this by prayer, conversation and writings. She also would repeat the scripture about "God hath not given you (me) a spirit of fear, but of peace, love and of a sound mind." She has put in place a line of defense for her children through the words of God. The more I learn about this and reflect on my life, the more I see how, perhaps, I have been affected and/or used of this evil spirit. Now, I see the influence around me. Someone please tell me how to respond to God's will in my life versus this manipulating, wordly spirit. In Jesus' name.
There is so much garbage
There is so much garbage going in within church bodies in these days. There is so much garbage, that it is absolutely necessary to be following the word of God, the Bible, rather than the example of any man that walks the earth today. Many people merely mirror their actions after other christians beliefs, actions, and convictions. It is now time more than ever to build a strong foundation on the word of God with a personal relationship, not forsaking the fellowship of others, but knowing his voice, and knowing his word, so that we will not be led astray in this difficult and crazy time. With the judgement of God sweeping the nations and witchcraft spirits taking over spiritual authority in many areas. The only feet I want to be kneeling at are the Lord's period. This isn't something that we are going to be able to do standing up with God's help. These are times that we are going to have to lay ourselves down like lambs at the shepherds feet and trust him to carry us through.
Anyone Got insight into this?
I am wondering what you think about this situation,
What can it be when two people come together to pray about the church we attend and nothing happens just like we up against a brick wall, until the other says let me just pray so they pray a prayer and take us out of the covering of our church(and dont know even why they did it)then brought us under Gods covering to lead us by still waters and it was like the flood gates of heaven opened we down on our knees weeping in intercession for our church. Has anyone ever experienced this, this is two people who are mature in the Lord and prophetic and Love the church , why did this happen, our fruits after the prayer were like Jesus was weeping for our church and our pastor..and we just obeyed and went with the heart of God in the weeping, but know it was not the only time it happen it happened again, and we have never experienced this before..Sorry did put this under false prophets wrong place.. Need to see what others may think about this never happen to me in 30yrs as a christian. Gos Bless and Thanks!
Reply to:- Anyone Got insight into this
What do you mean when you said "take us out of the covering of our Church,"?. We should always be under Gods' covering. At times when praying it does seems that our prayers are hitting the roof and bouncing off, but when we become like Jacob and be determined we do get breakthroughs and our prayers go to new levels in God. I have a friend that wanted to be touch by God and could not feel His presence, she presisted in her worship during a nights revival and she would not give up worshiping and God finally touched her she was so drunk in God's presence. She told me before it happened her prayers was like hitting a wall and bouncing off.
I hope this help
God bless
reply back to anyone got a clue
In what I said happened was not taking ourselves out of Gods covering but our church we never thought about it it was just what my friend felt to pray,in prayer we brought ourselves under Gods covering, we tried to see him about it, no real response, and since we have heard some people are leaving for the pastor does things that are not of the spirit or inspired by the spirit, I have been spirit filled for many many yrs and have had wonderful experiences with God and know all about having to wait for break through but this was different, something was hindering and when we came out of the covering we were greatly led into intercession and within that moment showed us that the covering we were under which was the pastors/church was not right we have since seen and come to know he operates under Jezebel and the fruits are becoming more frequent, so yes it is strange guess thats why wanted others opinion on it, I asked a friend of mine who is in ministry her first words were Leviathan a spirit that comes and twist and distorts conversation and that is very much what happens with this man, and can get very angry when fronted with real issues.. Thanks and God Bless
Jezebel Spirit
Ihave many questions on this subject,I'm tryon gto figure out if I have this spirit or not. If not I'm definitely dealing with it. Years ago I began to go to church and tried to live my life for the Lord, I was very uninformed and mislead in many way although I had a sincere heart to follow Him. Well I went to a conference and asked the LOrd to give me a word about the man I had children from. I wanted to marry him and was hurting because the way I felt he was treating me. Well at the conference the word came to me that I would get what I wanted, this lead me to believe that I would marry him.(Im also summarizing)Anyway I told everyone that he was my husband and that lead to a bunch of crap. He ended up marrying the girl he was with at the time and I went through so much till it's not even funny. Well, I believed that I had the gift of prophecy because I had dreams and they would come to pass and God would use me to speak to total strangers and the things I said would be true. Not sure if it was God or not but I believed it to be God. My pastor at the time told me that I had the Spirit of Elijah, but this is the same pastor that later told me I was crazy. The girl he married went through high water to destroy my life and then blamed it on me. Sex, lies, sabatoge, and backstabbing was part of the tactics used. Also rumors of witchcraft. Theres way more to this but I'm prayerfully seeking understanding.
Be wary of trusting personal prophecies
God will at times give true personal prophecies, but its also very easy for some people to speak words that do not originate from the Spirit of God, but rather from what I would call "spiritual sensitivity". When you are spiritually sensitive you can often pick up information by means of the human spirit and then craft a word which speaks to the desires in people's heart. It doesn't mean it is "Thus sayeth the Lord".
One of our problems is that our worship of God, our obedience to the will of God is often defective. One result of this can be that what we are hearing (thinking we are hearing from God) will also be wrong.
It doesn't seem as glamorous and thrilling as out and out supernatural manifestations, I know, but the promises of God in the Bible, if meditated on by a person truly submitting themselves in obedience to God's Word, will produce the most outstanding results imaginable, over time. And this can and does happen at times without even one "personal prophecy" to confirm it. How else did people receive the promises of God before the use of the Holy Spirit's gifts were widely accepted?
Seek humility and the transforming power of God's Word. No pastor, and no prophet is perfect. When you trust God's Word and act on it, you get satisfaction in your soul and results in life.
Dear Steve, I agree with
Dear Steve,
I agree with warrior-daughter that you need to escape before it is too late. Car in a mud needs to get out before tries to pullout another car out of mud. You see, both of you have sinned by sexual immorality and need to repent that. Also renounce all ties that relation caused.
Then Pray that God the Holy Spirit will heal all the pains resulted on that relation. For the time separate yourself completely from her. Big thing to remember is, you have to forgive her and pray for her unconditionally!
God help you dear
Stephen
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Tit 2:11-12 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live sober
Thank you
Thank you both for commenting. Finding this site and reading the info on this spirit and how it acts has changed my mindset drastically.
Its made her very obvious. This last week I devoted to acting and thinking purely. I sought good fellowship with men I trust and dove into the word like I havent in months.
She called Friday very ... stimulated... and I told her that I was not interested, that I was seeking God and wouldnt be with her. She tried several times that day, finally thanking me for saying no to her.
5 minutes later she left a message saying she hated my guts, always had and I should never contact her again.
The drasticness of her behavior change has always confused me, but I see it differently now. I resisted temptation and she or whatever is affecting her, did not like it so she tried a different sort of manipulation.
Im out. My eyes are open.
My girlfriend
This has scared me. Ive been in love with a woman i met in church 3 years ago. When I met her she was very spiritual. Everything about her shouted that this was a woman unlike any I had ever known. I grew very attached, and as soon as I did, she changed.
It began when a church elder, someone she considered to be her mentor, informed her that she had the gift of prophecy. This immediately went to her head and she began proclaiming to anyone who would listen that she was prohetic and that because of this she was more spiritual than even some of the more trusted church elders.
Our relationship became one of control and manipulation and I became her Ahab spirit. I did not want to lose her and so condoned and supported most things she said and did. There would come a time however where i simply could not stand it anymore and I would speak against her. She would burst into anger and would leave the relationship for a day, week or a month, then reappear, not exactly apologetic, but subdued, and I would take her back. Sex is her weapon. She has broken up with me numerous times stating after we have been intimate that, "She will not be married or consider to be married to a man who cannot say no to her."
This has gone on 3 years.
My spirituality is currently smashed. I feel so beaten down that my day to day life has suffered. If you asked me, Id tell you that I loved her deeply.
This last week she began texting me that she was in bed with another man, that she had aborted a child we had conceived and that she was happy about it. I took all of this extremely hard and have been very depressed. Two days ago she told me that shed made it all up to take her revenge on me. She believes that I have slanted our church against her and have caused them to slander her. She also had a meeting with a woman in the church who was there to help her and had this sudden revelation that she was angry with God. Her exact words were, "I hate God."
I'm more confused than I care to admit.
Shes very beautiful. Extremely charismatic. Appears to be very spiritual and has a following of women that see her as being better than them. The men fight for her attention. Ive had two accountability partners won over by her at times she and I were in conflict. Both were used to take revenge on me for supposedly subverting church members against her.
She told me recently that she was in contact with a group of people who were planning to undermine certain church elders. Her stated reason for undermining them is that they cannot possibly be Godly because they have judged her and God speaks to her in opposite ways that he speaks to them, therefore they cannot be right.
First my singles group was eradicated by this persons actions, and now my church is bearing the brunt. If someone speaks the truth to her she refutes their spirituality, announcing that they are religious and do not know God, and she is so convincing that people actually believe her.
She intimidates men and women alike.
And realizing all of this, I am still in love with her and wish that this spirit would be gone because I have seen the wonderful person that is underneath it all.
What can I do? Is there an alternative for me other than keeping her out of my life? I have moved 9 hours away from my son to be away from her and am feeling very drawn to move back to him.
Any advice would be appreciated,
Stephen
Hey Stephen I know EXACTLY
Hey Stephen I know EXACTLY what you are going through. Not only did I date this girl but I married her as well...During dating, she was the most gifted, charismatic, encouraging person I've ever met and truly seemed to be submissive to the Lord. I quickly fell in love and believed God had spoken to me to pursue her. After marriage the trials and tribulations started immediately and from a difficult circumstances she had a mental breakdown and at that point her respect, love and role in my life had changed. After about 5 months of marriage we went out for dinner and I found out something she had kept from me, I withdrew, she felt rejected and started drinking and to make a long story short started switching between very sweet to mean. When she lost it she stormed out and began walking down the street I ran to catch up with her and fought with her for like 45 minutes trying to get her in the car to take her home. She was hitting me, biting screaming obscenities and I knew something wasn't right. This wasn't my wife. I called out the name of Jesus and over the next 3-4 hours was in confrontation with several demons, the main one identifying itself as Jezebel. The manifestation included act to try and scare me, tried to intimidate me switching "personalities" and tried to deceive but I kept to prayer, reading the bible fighting in love with her mother by my side. The Holy Spirit guided me that night and it was only by the Grace of God that I knew what to do. Finally she just fell asleep and woke up the next morning with no recollection of the night before. Her mom and I sat her down and gently explained the events. She was beautiful, the oppression was gone out of her eyes, she was all smiles. She was afraid, wondering how they got there, questioning her salvation, wanting to be near Jesus and completely a different person.
This lasted for about two weeks and then she got really really sick. During this time, I noticed the shift and realized somehow the door was not shut and they were able to come back. Things got worse, and worse and I grew weary and discouraged on what to do, I started to become submissive so not to arouse her anger and we became disconnected and the battles continues.
I write this not to discourage or to say there is no hope because God loves her just as much as He loves me. I do not want people to look at people who struggle with this as evil people but learn to acknowledge the sin and brokenness in them. The level of deceit is so strong that it is hard for them to truly realize they are under this power. She is at a spiritual battle within herself and in perfect love these dark forces will not be able to withstand the power of Christ. She will have to repent and close the door but it is kindness that leads to repentance. And like someone else said you cannot take the submissive role. You have to be strong, confident in who you are as a Son of God and this thing will begin to break. You are in a different situation b/c you are only dating this girl and will have to make the call if you want to continue. I would seek safety and if you feel called by God, continue to pray and fast.
I made a covenant to love my wife before God through better or worse and so I have to lay down my life for her. She has kicked me out of the house but I still fight the heavenlies daily and have seen some change. God will be given the glory regardless and the gospel will move forward. Praise to His name.
Hey Stephen I know EXACTLY
Hey Stephen I know EXACTLY what you are going through. Not only did I date this girl but I married her as well...During dating, she was the most gifted, charismatic, encouraging person I've ever met and truly seemed to be submissive to the Lord. I quickly fell in love and believed God had spoken to me to pursue her. After marriage the trials and tribulations started immediately and from a difficult circumstances she had a mental breakdown and at that point her respect, love and role in my life had changed. After about 5 months of marriage we went out for dinner and I found out something she had kept from me, I withdrew, she felt rejected and started drinking and to make a long story short started switching between very sweet to mean. When she lost it she stormed out and began walking down the street I ran to catch up with her and fought with her for like 45 minutes trying to get her in the car to take her home. She was hitting me, biting screaming obscenities and I knew something wasn't right. This wasn't my wife. I called out the name of Jesus and over the next 3-4 hours was in confrontation with several demons, the main one identifying itself as Jezebel. The manifestation included act to try and scare me, tried to intimidate me switching "personalities" and tried to deceive but I kept to prayer, reading the bible fighting in love with her mother by my side. The Holy Spirit guided me that night and it was only by the Grace of God that I knew what to do. Finally she just fell asleep and woke up the next morning with no recollection of the night before. Her mom and I sat her down and gently explained the events. She was beautiful, the oppression was gone out of her eyes, she was all smiles. She was afraid, wondering how they got there, questioning her salvation, wanting to be near Jesus and completely a different person.
This lasted for about two weeks and then she got really really sick. During this time, I noticed the shift and realized somehow the door was not shut and they were able to come back. Things got worse, and worse and I grew weary and discouraged on what to do, I started to become submissive so not to arouse her anger and we became disconnected and the battles continues.
I write this not to discourage or to say there is no hope because God loves her just as much as He loves me. I do not want people to look at people who struggle with this as evil people but learn to acknowledge the sin and brokenness in them. The level of deceit is so strong that it is hard for them to truly realize they are under this power. She is at a spiritual battle within herself and in perfect love these dark forces will not be able to withstand the power of Christ. She will have to repent and close the door but it is kindness that leads to repentance. And like someone else said you cannot take the submissive role. You have to be strong, confident in who you are as a Son of God and this thing will begin to break. You are in a different situation b/c you are only dating this girl and will have to make the call if you want to continue. I would seek safety and if you feel called by God, continue to pray and fast.
I made a covenant to love my wife before God through better or worse and so I have to lay down my life for her. She has kicked me out of the house but I still fight the heavenlies daily and have seen some change. God will be given the glory regardless and the gospel will move forward. Praise to His name.
I think I know your friend.
I think I know your friend. And in my opinion, it might be wise to consider reading what is written about the Ahab spirit. Jezebel cannot live without a Ahab and will reject anyone that does not come under her web of deceit. Jezebel equals control. If you do not give her control, she cannot survive. Beware, often Jezebel and Ahab couples can switch roles. The man taking on Jezebel and the woman Ahab. If Jezebel does not repent, she is dangerous. It sounds like she has already resorted to such harm in desperate circumstances and will destroy everything you have gained as a result of her destructive spirit.
It is hard because you, in loving her, you may only see her as your girlfriend. However, if you can try to distinguish the Jezebel spirit in her and seperate the person of girlfriend with the person of Jezebel, it will be easier to identify when this spirit rises and when it is under "control".
She is dangerous, do not doubt it. However, she likely carries some truth. Do not doubt that tricks of deception are underlined in this truth. It is time Jezebel is brought down. Remember, only God has the power to deliver her.
Has anyone considered that
Has anyone considered that if the 'Ahab' in this scenario, or the "jezebel" had simply kept the commandment to not commit adultery, we wouldn't be having this super-spiritual conversation??? Come on guys, its time we get real with our Lord and Savior and quit messing around. We allow obvious sin while wondering why we are being victimized and duped. Wake up. The Lord is coming!
Blessings and Peace,
Timothy
Pastor Ok's Sin
I am just adding a small comment about people living together...When it was brought to the attention of a pastor of a charismatic church that a person who were working with children had a live in, his comment was "Maybe they are trying to save $$$$ by living together" and they were still allowed to work with children.....There was no counseling to steer the persons away from this sin and a little leaven will spoil the batch...When a older child and more especially a teenager sees a Christian participating in sin, they will use this as a example for what they will participate in....Their attitude is they do it and are a Christian so I can too...
Immoral Jezebel Spirit
I must agree with Timothy on this. how is it that churches are so filled with people that are obviously fornicating and not being confronted. No wonder Jezebel is so rife in these churches!
Mark
Re: My Girlfriend
Run like Joseph did from Potiphor's wife....
You are still in love with her because you have an unhealthy soul tie to her...She has now slept with another and created another soul tie.... The soul tie comes about from unhealthy relationships and they become the most strong through sexual involvement.....
Remove yourself from her...If you must move back to be near your son do not go to the places where you might encounter her...Do not call her, send her a text message ect....Change your phone number and make it unavailable to anyone who knows her..Do not go back to the church she is in...Be strong in the Lord and the power of His might........
Considering the gift of prophecy, you do not need a church elder to tell you that you have this gift...It is given to you by God and not bestowed upon you by an elder...I see manipulation also from the elder and a Jezebel begets more Jezebels ....
If the text messages were true....Why would you want to be tied to a murderer????? Why would you want to tie yourself with someone whose only thoughts are of herself and what she can get????....
Stop listening to your heart for the heart is very deceptive...Ask the Lord to forgive you for all of your relationship with her....Ask Him to hold you and help you to not listen to your heart and to help you sever this unhealthy soul tie....
Everything we go through is for teaching purposes....Learn from this and do not turn against Lord or women....Let the Lord chastize you for He chastizes those He loves....After the chastizement you will have learned a very valuable lesson and if the lesson is not learned you will repeat the sin until you learn not to repeat the sin....
To Spirit of Jezebel
I actually found this website doing research on the Jezebel Spirit because a member of my ministry stated that God dropped it in her spirit. I have been totally blown away about all the comments that I have read but the comment from warrior daughter really hit home for me. I believe the member that told me this has this spirit. Everything you mentioned applies to her. And I am really glad that I took the time to read up on this spirit because I was really thinking about leaving my ministry because of her manipulation. Your comment sent chills up my spine. I thank God that I came across this website and got to read your comments. I am eager to find out more!!!
God Bless You!
Jezebel spirit
I like the attempt to expose the scheme of jezebel, however i just can't seem to login to your library of information. i was given a mandate to preach on this to entitled "Jezebel and the thyatira Church" and i'm fishing for more validated information. Note "Without knowledge the people perish"
controlling friend
i had a person came into my life a few years ago and my life has ben a total wreck ever since. it come to the point were the enemy has tried to fool me ito thinking that i cannot live an normal life withought that person. she always want me to be around her and do what she says. and my spending is out of control since i put up into her i need help i need deliverance
Jezebel Spirit
Hi - I am very confused. I became a christian last year and had wonderful guidance and councel from a great friend who is a mature christian. Recently this friend ended our friendship because she believes I have the Jezebel Spirit. She would not explain her reasons for this and I am now exceptionally confused in a spiritual sense and hurt by the loss of such a dear friendship. I know we have had our ups and downs but I also know that we have been very good friends to each other and now I am just totally bewildered as to why my friend wants nothing to do with me and has reacted badly when I have tried to make peace. I know my friend feels lack of freedom within the friendship but I don't believe I tied her down in any form yet she is obviously overwhelmed by me at this point in time - is that the Jezebel spirit or something else? I pray for any help offered but I doubt its too late to rescue this relationship.
Re:Jezebel Spirit
Dear Friend,
I empathise with your concern deeply..!!! Firstly, you are a very matured person i must say to make peace with this "matured" christian friend of yours...coz it's very difficult even for strong christians to bear each others weaknesses...!!! As for this friend, I can only comment that if she was really your friend and if she sensed that you have the "Jezebel spirit" then she should have first educated you on that topic and then helped you to get delivered...coz..everyone..whoever it is..at some point or the other have been under the influence of the Jezebel spirit and only when we realise what that spirit does, we can truly repent and cast that spirit from us and ofcourse to stay free, we have to continually avoid the temptations this spirit brings..!!!
I feel, you should start praying for good, strong , faithful and real matured christian people to share your life...coz..it's extremely vital for a growing christian to have strong believing, prayerful, supportive christian friends to encourage us and intercede on our behalf...as it's very difficult for a lone person to sustain the tempatations and the troubles that this world brings.
So dear friend, please do not feel condemned, If you in Christ you are a new creation and remember the devil is under your feet, so use your power to trample the works of the enemy and live victoriously...!!!!
In the meantime, get yourself educated on Spiritual Warfare, Blessings and Curses, Bondage Breaking, and ofcourse the ways of the Lord so that in future you can be that strong, matured christian friend to someone who really needs one...!!!
God Bless You..!!!
In Christ,
Aviva
jezebel spirit
Dear Aviva,
Thank you so much for your advice. That is what all my non-christian friends have been telling me but as this dear friend is the only mature christian friend I know I really wanted and needed a christian take on all of this. Sadly my friend is now slandering me to mutual friends which I know is totally out of character for her so I believe there are a few mental health issues behind all of this and I appear to be the focus of her wrath. All I can do is pray for her at this point and hope she can find her own peace soon.
God bless
Re: Jezebaal Spirit
I love the above advice from Aviva
Have you noticed how many 'Christian' women control their husbands. It really grieves me. So many of our loved ones are dominated by their believing wives. What's happening?
We know that a marriage based on The Rock should be equal but with the benefits of godly servant-leadership from the husband.
Is it symptomatic of our society? Why should the Body mirror the world? It shouldn't!
It is a matter for ongoing prayer.
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