I myself am still learning so i open myself to correction and views.

This is my view on one of the situations u mentioned rsaint, the one where Jesus in the Roman Catholic system is not sacrificed at mass. I read the following site, n beg to differ.

I came across this site authoured by a catholic Jesuit.
http://catholic-resources.org/ChurchDocs/Mass.htm, if i read correctly it was authoured by a Jesuit.

It is under the section "Liturgy of the Eucharist" that i seem to have trouble understanding, i don't agree with what they are saying. When i read it, it very much so indicates that they do sacrifice Jesus again at the mass. Here is what the Priest is to say according to this site i have found.

Priest: Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have this bread to offer, which earth has given and human hands have made. It will become for us the bread of life.

All: Blessed be God for ever.

Priest: Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have this wine to offer, fruit of the vine and work of human hands. It will become our spiritual drink.

All: Blessed be God for ever.

Priest: Pray, my brothers and sisters, that our sacrifice may be acceptable to God, the almighty Father.

All: May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands,
for the praise and glory of his name,
for our good, and the good of all his Church.

I noted that the priest is now calling, both bread and wine a sacrifice =/ and he is labelling it as "our" sacrifice to God.

When u read the Bible, Jesus sacrificed himself according to the will of the Father that we should be saved. It was not us that sacrificed to God. But it was the will of his Father that Jesus was to fulfill the prophecy at hand that it be done for the salvation of all sinners. So it is God who sacrificed his only son to die for the sins of us that we might be saved. Why then does the priest say "that OUR sacrifice may be acceptable to God".

The bread and wine was not a sacrifice, it was a reminder of His suffering and what He did for us, and who He was, that His blood washes away our sins. The wine is mentioned in

" Matthew 26:27 - to end of 28 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins"." and the bread in Matthew 26:26.

It never states the wine being a sacrifice to God. Nor does it say anything about it being a "spiritual drink". Nor was it to be an offering to God.

Jesus was a sacrifice to us, not a sacrifice from us. It seems to me this is quite like, mocking the Father saying here this is your Son whom we sacrificed for You, when indeed it is the other way round ! They have twisted the meaning of the bread, and wine, and turned it against God.

Father God sacrificed his only son that our sins be washed away.

He was sacrificed to free "us" from the bondage of sin. What do we, in sacrificing Him back to God, gain ? Only his wrath.

The wine is to remind us, that Jesus's blood washed away our sins.

Where in the Bible does this bread and wine become a sacrifice from us to God?

If this is not what is meant by the Roman Catholics, and indeed they are talkin about a free will offering. Why do they still do it. We do not need to give free will offerings anymore to please Him as those did in the Old Testament. We please Him by doing His will! No longer do we need to offer wave offerings or burnt offerings for the redemption of our sins, for forgiveness. It is in the name of Jesus that our sins be forgiven.

BUT the above is not what the Roman Catholic have in mind, the next stage of the mass is the breaking of bread just as Jesus broke the bread in Matthew 26:26. Do u see now that the wine and bread they talk of is what they falsely twist around, from that of what Matthew 26:25 onward talks about.

A little further on theres this the Roman Catcholic - write about the bread and wine.

or C - When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, Lord Jesus, until you come in glory.

They proclaim His death, not His ressurection why is that ? They "proclaim his death" until he comes into Glory ie his 2nd return. Are we not suppose to proclaim the Kingdom of Heaven as the Bible tells us to, to tell of Jesus's ressurection and that his death was a sacrifice for our sin ! Not to proclaim his death as they "eat this bread and drink this cup". What life saving benefits are in that ?

If how ever we remember as the Bible says that the wine is in rememberance of His Blood of the Covenant that washes away our sins and the bread, his flesh. We can say, we are reminded of His sufferings for us, it is His blood that has set us free from sin, he appeared in human form that we may see His glory and love on earth that we may believe. The bread and wine was to remind us not of his death, but of His sacrifice for us all. He is a living sacifice for all humanity, seated at the right hand of God.

That is my understanding of this topic as for now.