Are the Ten Commandments still valid and in-force today?

Many even here have cited the following verse in putting forth that the 10 Commndments are gone or no longer in force:

Colossians 2:14-17 – Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

So lets take a look at each part, first the “handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us” was the law of Moses, not God’s moral law. The Commandments were described in the Bible as being written on stone with His finger (Exodus 31:18) not handwritten by Moses (Deuteronomy 31:9). Also that God’s law was not grievous to us (1 John 5:3) as Moses’ law was a witness against us (Deuteronomy 31:26).

Second the Mosaic Ceremonial Laws dealt with meat and drink offerings and various holydays; the 10 Commandments did not. Also, Mosaic laws did not judge a man, that was not its purpose; those laws were added BECAUSE of transgressions and did not DEFINE the transgression as the Ten Commandments do; these were already shown above.

Now notice that “sabbath days” was used here; plural. The seventh-day Sabbath is usually referred to as “the sabbath day”(singular). The various holy days of Moses’ Law were called sabbaths, that is true, but they all revolved around timing of the moon – not the seven days of creation.

In the Jewish economy there, were two kinds of Sabbaths-the seventh-day Sabbath of the Ten Commandments and the yearly ceremonial Sabbaths of the sanctuary service. The word “sabbath” means rest, and in the Jewish economy there were several yearly feast days on which all the people rested and worshipped. One of these was the Passover. The Passover came on the 14th day of the first Jewish religious month each year. Thus, it came on Monday one year, on Tuesday the next year, etc.’

Scripture shows us the yearly ceremonial sabbaths in Leviticus 16-31- 23-4 44 These yearly feasts pointed forward to Jesus and His ministry and had no more significance after He came. The Passover Sabbath, for example, was actually a prophecy fore telling the day of Jesus’ crucifixion. He died on the day of the Passover, at the moment of the slaying of the lamb. Jesus is the true Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5-7)

These yearly ceremonial sabbaths were all instituted as a part of the sanctuary services and pointed forward to Jesus. The Sabbath of the Ten Commandments pointed back to the Creation: “Remember the Sabbath day … for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth … and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.” Exodus 20:8-11.

Thus there were two kinds of sabbaths-the yearly ceremonial sabbaths established at Sinai, and the weekly Sabbath established at Creation and embodied in the Law of God. Paul is very clear in Colossians, which sabbaths he is talking about-the ceremonial sabbaths only. Many people read only until the word “sabbaths” and fail to read the rest of the sentence in the next verse. “So let no one judge you in food or in drink or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come but the substance is of Christ.” Colossians 2:16,17. Paul said not to judge people regarding these ceremonial sabbaths, but the Bible makes plain that the seventh-day Sabbath is a perpetual memorial.

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  1. i according to ten commandments murdering (but not being angry), prostitution are sins and that person is under judgement. but Christ told that being angry with ur fellow brother is subjected to judgement and having lust in ur heart is so dangerous. so if we simply go by word there is a lot of possibility that we might fail. if we understand it then we will come to know that not only ten commandments but apart from this there r many many things to follow.
    dear Hobie let me ask u a question? just analyze answer it to urself. are u loving others as you love urself?because this is the thing emphasized more in NT. following 10 comm don’t make u to love others as urself.(so that israelites failed ) but loving others as urself make u to follow and obey the word of God from ur heart automatically . so pls don’t cling to that again.

    • My brother,

      Like the Pharisees you are looking at the letter of the law. Christ gave the clear understanding of them when they asked Him. It is a Law of love, for not only your fellowman but for God, you must not leave out that. And so the question then is, how do you love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength, and worshiping Him is what the first 4 of the Commandments show you.

      .Mark 12:30
      And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

      .Mark 12:31
      And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

  2. Timothy Luke says:

    To give a simple answer to the question posed, “Are the 10 Commandments still valid and in-force today?” I would have to let scripture answer….

    2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
    2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
    2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
    2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
    2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
    2Co 3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
    2Co 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    2Co 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
    2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
    2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
    2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
    2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

    If the 10 commandments were written on stone, they MUST be done away, or the Bible is fallible. I suggest the logic of 7th day theology is fallible and the Bible is infallible.

    Deu 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
    Deu 5:13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
    Deu 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
    Deu 5:15 therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

    7th day theology also fails to acknowledge the Deuteronomy detail of the sabbath day, which tells us it points to being set free from captivity. This liberty is certainly found in Christ rather than a day as the Colossians passage says.

    “Where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.”

    This brings me to an exciting testimony I received today.

    Hi Tim,
    We went to Heard museum today. I accidentally ate something made of corn (which I used to, just a few weeks ago be severely allergic to) and nothing happened. I was so excited after that I came home and ate pizza for dinner! Yeast was the last frontier. No reaction! It’s official, I now have no allergic breathing reactions to any food, I know of. Praise Yahweh!
    I went to my hair dresser the other day and there was a strong chemical smell and instead of being afraid for myself I just wanted to make sure the baby didn’t get into whatever it was. Halleluiah!
    And I’m no longer afraid of everything and I am successfully overcoming anxiety too.
    I have turned responsibility for my healing over to God.
    There have been symptoms in my intestines lately as I have been taking “my” foods back but I have just been praying against them and not treating or trying to figure them out.

    To repeat a question I have not had answered. Should I stop attending a spirit lead church where the love of God flows and His healing is manifest, to attend a sabbath keeping congregation that I have found to be spiritually dry?

    • The early church was also a Spirit led church with much love and blessings flowing, but then mans ideas and traditions crept in and idols were again worshipped just with names of ‘saints’ put on them and many doctrines of man brought in to the point that the Reformers saw the mistakes and spoke out. You cannot depend on the church for your salvation or mans ideas or philosphy but on Jesus Christ who as the Creator made the Sabbath, as the great I AM gave Moses the Commandments, and as our Saviour asks us to keep them out of love.

      Now to your points, true the Law is written in our hearts, but are they still valid, of course, not one of the writers would say that the 10 Commandments are gone, and Christ’s words are clear.

      John 14:21
      He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

      They are repeated throughout the New Testament by the writers, if they were no longer that would not have happened. As seen here, Paul says in the following passage:

      Ephesians 6:1-3
      (1) Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
      (2) Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)
      (3) That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

      When the seventh day Sabbath and the feast days were introduced, God was careful to let them know that the seventh day Sabbath is to be regarded as “separate” from the feast days:

      Lev 23:37-38
      (37) These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
      (38) Beside (Hebrew: separation) the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.

      The literal translation of “beside the sabbaths of the Lord’ means just that… besides the Sabbaths of the Lord.

      When Christ talks on the Sabbath you can see that He had every intention that His Sabbath would still be observed after His death:

      Matthew 24:20 – But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

      Gods Law clearly is in the hearts of those who follow Christ, but we in no way are told that sin or transgression of the Commandments are now ok.

      Mark 10:19
      Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

      The Law remains, the same which was at the beginning.

      Hebrews 13:8
      Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

      So why are there so many who try to nullify Gods Commandments, the scriptures gives us warning.

      “There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” Proverbs 14:12.

      • Timothy Luke says:
        2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
        2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
        2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
        2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
        2Co 3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

        So are you saying “That which is done away” is not a reference to what was written on stone, the 10 commandments? The moral law is written on our hearts, not the 10 commandments.

        In saying I cannot depend on my church for my salvation, I take it you are saying my church is not saved? I was where you were. I grew up there in sabbath keeping etc. I am bearing witness that the life and love of God is evident in the church I now attend on Sunday. I also bear witness that the sabbath keeping denomination I attended rejected the healing testimony of how God healed my wife’s heart and delivered her from sickness. I have not met a seventh day church that has extended its vision much further than the defense of the seventh day, unless it was perhaps a messianic one.

        • 2 Corinthians 3:2, 3
          Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

          I do not see the Law of God being done away with, but being brought to life. God’s Law was never done away with, not a jot or a tittle. Jesus had it in the fleshy table of His heart too, and He kept it perfectly.

          Look at the words given to King David to speak..
          Psalms 40 7-9
          7. Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of Me, I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, Thy law is within My heart. I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained My lips, O Lord, thou knowest.

          In every way, Jesus taught what true righteousness was beyond thou shalt not kill, He taught and lived love for His neighbor, but He never taught or lived the breaking, or doing away with any of God’s holy, just, and good Law.

          Christ contineously held up the Commandments as a central theme for eternal life, as something to be upheld, as the basis of loving God and loving your fellow man. It is God transfering His Love to man, a understanding of Gods love throught his law.

          Matthew 5:19
          Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

          Matthew 15:3
          But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

          Matthew 19:17
          “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.”

          Matthew 22:34
          [ The Greatest Commandment ] Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together.

          Matthew 22:36
          “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

          Matthew 22:40
          All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

          Mark 7:8,9
          For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
          And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

          Mark 10:19
          You know the commandments:’Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.’ ”

          Mark 12:28
          [ The Greatest Commandment ] One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
          And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
          And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
          The second is this:’Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

          Luke 1:6
          Both of them were upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commandments and regulations blamelessly.

          Luke 18:20
          You know the commandments:’Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.’ ”

          John 14:15
          If ye love me, keep my commandments.

          John 14:21
          He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

          John 15:10
          If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.

          So I dont think we can declare it no longer is valid, that we can reject what Christ so clearly upheld for us to observe, to put in the fleshy table of our hearts, to love God and our fellow man, and this is what the 10 Commandments are, how to love God and your fellowman.

          • Timothy Luke says:

            Michael has a spiritual responsibility in maintaining this board, and I have one as well in moderating it. This supercedes anyone’s “rights” to say whatever they personally desire to say.

            Christian-faith.com is established as a place where differing ideas may be discussed, but to push the topic relentlessly with little to no regard for the serious points of conflict with scripture is not allowable.

            Hobie, you asked the question “Are the 10 Commandments Still Valid and in-force Today?” I quote THE BIBLE, saying the writings written on stone are “done away.” Somehow the fact there are no other writings written on stone in scripture other than the 10 commandments does not deter you. This is incomprehensible to me. “I do not see the Law of God being done away with…” You see it that way, the apostle Paul sees it another. I have to believe Paul.

            God says, the 10 commandments are “that which is done away” 2 Cor 3:11.

            Hobie says, “I don’t see the Law of God being done away with,” after asking the specific question, “Are the ten commandments still valid and in force today?”

            God says, do not judge your brother over what day they esteem.

            Hobie says, if you do not keep the 7th day you are wrong.

            God says he will make each person to stand (as opposed to withering in condemnation) in the day of judgment,

            Hobie says we will be counted as sinners and punished for not esteeming the 7th day.

            For those who would like to keep the 7th day holy, you are certainly welcome to do so. What is not welcome here is the continued pressing on the topic in order to bring people into condemnation for not espousing that day. That is contrary to the clear Word of God in Romans 14:6-13, and is therefore contrary to what Christian-Faith.com represents.

            Hobie, I know you desire to bring people to conviction on this day because you see it as a blessing. That is your opinion and if you desire to further it, you may start your own forum. I am not condemning you or your faith.

            For those who would like to become holy through the sanctifying work of Jesus Christ and be set free from the bondage of sin that besets and weighs us down, feel free to continue here. We welcome you to make your prayer needs known and read the many topics we have on being set free.

            The Sabbath discussion is now over.

          • My brother to find oneself arguing against Gods Law, which Christ repeatedly upheld and confirmed for us to follow out of love, seems a bit ironic for a Christian. Then to cut off discussion on it does not bode well for free and open look at the issues, but it is what it is.

            Your brother in Christ
            Hobie

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